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<blockquote data-quote="804brown" data-source="post: 1167492" data-attributes="member: 29553">You really live in a fantasy land.&nbsp; Oh the good ol days.&nbsp; If you will recall, by the time they were voted out, the old board stopped caring.&nbsp; Remember their high salaries and matching 401ks.&nbsp; Remember them not coming to their buildings anymore.&nbsp; The arrogance of assuming they would be able to retire in their positions as they no one could challenge them.&nbsp; The turning their backs on ron carey when he went to trial AND ALL HE STOOD FOR.&nbsp; The selling out of the rank and file in order to cozy up to hoffa (which got us NOTHING!!).&nbsp; Remember in &#039;98 the E/b &quot;stayed neutral&quot; but the membership backed leedham.&nbsp; In 2002, the redmond/buhlert board backed hoffa BUT THE MEMBERSHIP BACKED LEEDHAM. Again in 2007, the redmond/buhlert board backed hoffa but the membership backed leedham.&nbsp; ANd once again in 2012, the membership voted for the reformer sandy pope over redmond/buhlert&#039;s guy hoffa.&nbsp; Yeah lets reminisce a little bit.&nbsp; Remember how howie couldnt stop the pension cut back in 2006??&nbsp; Remember how they then diverted monies from H/W to the pension??&nbsp; All behind our backs.&nbsp; They had to get re -elected in dec 2006 first, THEN it gets revealed what they did!!&nbsp; How dishonest is that??&nbsp; That you miss??Face it those guys were out of touch with us!!&nbsp; They made TWICE what drivers made and probably 6 times what a part timer made!!&nbsp; And what did we get in return??&nbsp; Weak concessionary contracts .&nbsp; ANd look at how close some of them were with management.&nbsp; Your hero buhlert was besties with DM kirk!!&nbsp; That is what happens when one is in office too long.&nbsp; I cant see that happening to this board.&nbsp; They have a very confrontational relationship with management...as it should be.&nbsp; They are civil but tough.Back to your heroes howie and bill and how &quot;it was always about the member&quot;!!&nbsp; Well, when a certain member needed their help by the name of Ron Carey, they ran and hid!! The man who made Local 804 a powerhouse and looked up to by every local around the country, was lead away and his UNION LEADERSHIP WATCHED FROM UNDER THEIR BEDS!!&nbsp; They turned their backs on the rank and file who would have loved to see the E/b stand next to ron and speak to the media for ron and show solidarity.&nbsp; But they CHOSE not to because they ONLY&nbsp; cared about their own futures...their own salaries...their own cushy lifestyles they got used to!!&nbsp; They didnt want to rock the boat in the HOFFA YEARS!! Sort of like the vichy french during WW2!! They refused to stand up for OUR LEADER who they knew was not guilty!!&nbsp; BUT THEY DIDNT CARE ABOUT RON OR ABOUT THE RANK AND FILE......THEY ONLY CARED ABOUT THEMSELVES!!&nbsp; Shame ....that is the redmond leagacy...and the nail in the coffin was when ron died (dec 2008), NONE OF THEM showed...NONE OF THEM cared.&nbsp; But the members cared.&nbsp; The members remembered.&nbsp; And 1 YEAR LATER, the members booted their asses out ...FOR GOOD!!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="804brown, post: 1167492, member: 29553"] You really live in a fantasy land. Oh the good ol days. If you will recall, by the time they were voted out, the old board stopped caring. Remember their high salaries and matching 401ks. Remember them not coming to their buildings anymore. The arrogance of assuming they would be able to retire in their positions as they no one could challenge them. The turning their backs on ron carey when he went to trial AND ALL HE STOOD FOR. The selling out of the rank and file in order to cozy up to hoffa (which got us NOTHING!!). Remember in '98 the E/b "stayed neutral" but the membership backed leedham. In 2002, the redmond/buhlert board backed hoffa BUT THE MEMBERSHIP BACKED LEEDHAM. Again in 2007, the redmond/buhlert board backed hoffa but the membership backed leedham. ANd once again in 2012, the membership voted for the reformer sandy pope over redmond/buhlert's guy hoffa. Yeah lets reminisce a little bit. Remember how howie couldnt stop the pension cut back in 2006?? Remember how they then diverted monies from H/W to the pension?? All behind our backs. They had to get re -elected in dec 2006 first, THEN it gets revealed what they did!! How dishonest is that?? That you miss??Face it those guys were out of touch with us!! They made TWICE what drivers made and probably 6 times what a part timer made!! And what did we get in return?? Weak concessionary contracts . ANd look at how close some of them were with management. Your hero buhlert was besties with DM kirk!! That is what happens when one is in office too long. I cant see that happening to this board. They have a very confrontational relationship with management...as it should be. They are civil but tough. Back to your heroes howie and bill and how "it was always about the member"!! Well, when a certain member needed their help by the name of Ron Carey, they ran and hid!! The man who made Local 804 a powerhouse and looked up to by every local around the country, was lead away and his UNION LEADERSHIP WATCHED FROM UNDER THEIR BEDS!! They turned their backs on the rank and file who would have loved to see the E/b stand next to ron and speak to the media for ron and show solidarity. But they CHOSE not to because they ONLY cared about their own futures...their own salaries...their own cushy lifestyles they got used to!! They didnt want to rock the boat in the HOFFA YEARS!! Sort of like the vichy french during WW2!! They refused to stand up for OUR LEADER who they knew was not guilty!! BUT THEY DIDNT CARE ABOUT RON OR ABOUT THE RANK AND FILE......THEY ONLY CARED ABOUT THEMSELVES!! Shame ....that is the redmond leagacy...and the nail in the coffin was when ron died (dec 2008), NONE OF THEM showed...NONE OF THEM cared. But the members cared. The members remembered. And 1 YEAR LATER, the members booted their asses out ...FOR GOOD!! [/QUOTE]

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