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<blockquote data-quote="OffRoutesPay" data-source="post: 1169240" data-attributes="member: 47531">WOW what a bunch of BS , what a joke. The old board stayed away from Carey not to upset Hoffa, Howie wanted to be president of joint council 16 thats why he kissed Hoffa&#039;s @ss nothing more. Billy told me the reason they didn&#039;t go to Ronnie&#039;s funeral is because they knew Tim would us it agaisn&#039;t them come election time. Howards great benefits was to pay out of network claims thats why it when from 33 million down to 7 million. NO the pension protection act did not switch the responsibility to us that is a LIE. Another LIE the president of 447 voted agaisn&#039;t it because there wasn&#039;t enough money it was under funded Howard just wanted someone to blame. NO Howard fixed the accrual rate by getting UPS to give an extra $1.75 but it was a time bomb and he knew it, the $1.75 was only for the life of the contract why do you think he wanted to get rid of 25 and out, Howard tried twice to get rid of it. Our medical was in arbitration and he never told anyone was waiting till he get re-elected , Even his own lawyer told him the medical would go broke thats why he wanted to get rid of 25 and out. Howard investment did not meet expectations his own people said they lost 180 million do to bad investments. STOP with the BS For you to talk like Howard was a good president is a total joke. He ran our finances into the ground only cared about getting re-elected.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="OffRoutesPay, post: 1169240, member: 47531"] WOW what a bunch of BS , what a joke. The old board stayed away from Carey not to upset Hoffa, Howie wanted to be president of joint council 16 thats why he kissed Hoffa's @ss nothing more. Billy told me the reason they didn't go to Ronnie's funeral is because they knew Tim would us it agaisn't them come election time. Howards great benefits was to pay out of network claims thats why it when from 33 million down to 7 million. NO the pension protection act did not switch the responsibility to us that is a LIE. Another LIE the president of 447 voted agaisn't it because there wasn't enough money it was under funded Howard just wanted someone to blame. NO Howard fixed the accrual rate by getting UPS to give an extra $1.75 but it was a time bomb and he knew it, the $1.75 was only for the life of the contract why do you think he wanted to get rid of 25 and out, Howard tried twice to get rid of it. Our medical was in arbitration and he never told anyone was waiting till he get re-elected , Even his own lawyer told him the medical would go broke thats why he wanted to get rid of 25 and out. Howard investment did not meet expectations his own people said they lost 180 million do to bad investments. STOP with the BS For you to talk like Howard was a good president is a total joke. He ran our finances into the ground only cared about getting re-elected. [/QUOTE]

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