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<blockquote data-quote="OffRoutesPay" data-source="post: 1169262" data-attributes="member: 47531">Again I never voted for Tim or anyone on the current board. Yes I feel that Tim and his crew need to do a lot better job but being in the hall only 3 years you can&#039;t expect them to have a relationship like the old board did. It took Ronnie a long time UPS hated his guts and didn&#039;t respect him for years plus Ronnie had the right to pull buildings when he wanted to, Tim doesn&#039;t its a different time.I agree that having the VCD in your supplement was a big mistake but if they get them out of the supplement and it goes out for a vote it will pass.I was very close to the old board and for anyone to tell me that Howard did a good job is crazy. Yes was he able to save people by going to the company of course , why because ups knew that Howard would push for weak contracts and not fight ups for better supplements so of course they gave him a lot of bones.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="OffRoutesPay, post: 1169262, member: 47531"] Again I never voted for Tim or anyone on the current board. Yes I feel that Tim and his crew need to do a lot better job but being in the hall only 3 years you can't expect them to have a relationship like the old board did. It took Ronnie a long time UPS hated his guts and didn't respect him for years plus Ronnie had the right to pull buildings when he wanted to, Tim doesn't its a different time. I agree that having the VCD in your supplement was a big mistake but if they get them out of the supplement and it goes out for a vote it will pass. I was very close to the old board and for anyone to tell me that Howard did a good job is crazy. Yes was he able to save people by going to the company of course , why because ups knew that Howard would push for weak contracts and not fight ups for better supplements so of course they gave him a lot of bones. [/QUOTE]

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