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<blockquote data-quote="member6045" data-source="post: 1175771" data-attributes="member: 42847">To the cool aid drinkers:We the non cool-aide drinkers&nbsp; want&nbsp; a real&nbsp; pension increase that is sustainable to all members of local 804! That will stand for everyone everyone who is vested! An accrual rate higher than the current 144.00 for all vested full time employee. So explain how would received&nbsp; raise? How much would ups have given us to come out of critical status and give us a pension increase? We all know an actuaries speaks what ifs? We want facts! Truth! We want to know exact funding levels!&nbsp; What&nbsp; will be our yearly contributions on jan 1, 2014. Will it be over 85% funded?or higher?Jan ,1 2015 jan 1, 2016Jan1, 2017Jan 1, 2018Are they stating there going to keep us in green zone or better? I understand that a raise can&#039;t be given in the red/yellow zone correct? without a sell your soul to the devil deal! So is ups putting yearly lump sums in to keep a higher accrual rate for every member? or is it just what it seems like?&nbsp; your a little boy sitting at the big men table and you don&#039;t know what your doing !!!We will not give away our jobs for a fake pension increase.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="member6045, post: 1175771, member: 42847"] To the cool aid drinkers: We the non cool-aide drinkers want a real pension increase that is sustainable to all members of local 804! That will stand for everyone everyone who is vested! An accrual rate higher than the current 144.00 for all vested full time employee. So explain how would received raise? How much would ups have given us to come out of critical status and give us a pension increase? We all know an actuaries speaks what ifs? We want facts! Truth! We want to know exact funding levels! What will be our yearly contributions on jan 1, 2014. Will it be over 85% funded?or higher? Jan ,1 2015 jan 1, 2016 Jan1, 2017 Jan 1, 2018 Are they stating there going to keep us in green zone or better? I understand that a raise can't be given in the red/yellow zone correct? without a sell your soul to the devil deal! So is ups putting yearly lump sums in to keep a higher accrual rate for every member? or is it just what it seems like? your a little boy sitting at the big men table and you don't know what your doing !!! We will not give away our jobs for a fake pension increase. [/QUOTE]

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