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<blockquote data-quote="member6045" data-source="post: 1214775" data-attributes="member: 42847">You lying to part timers during your tenure is the only thing shameful! You did absolutely nothing for them in the issues if hourly rate, healthcare and pension! But they bought your lies! Along with the people that sold your agenda to get old timers a raise! YOU used them! Now they want there raises and you have NO answers for them!!!The 25 and out issue came about bye the trustees!! Ups knew that local 447 president would vote with them!! 447 had there own deal working! So a vote was cast and accrual rate was cut! ITS called a reduction of benefits!! Remember the phrase! History always repeats itself. As I stated earlier? Howie and Magrene crafted a deal that made ups have keep the accrual rate at $144.00 dollars!! This meant that even if the investments did horrible!! The company had to put money in to keep that $144.00 accrual rate in place!!! That was for the life of the contract! It was originally thought that it was 18 million dollars but market began to fall and there where years of over 25 million dollars where pumped into this local yearly!! Meanwhile our current contract falls short of these numbers even in a stock market that has been working at peak performance and funding relief giving pension funds a break on return investments from bad years! Aka! Kicking the can down the road for today&#039;s part timers to have major problems when they one day become full time.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="member6045, post: 1214775, member: 42847"] You lying to part timers during your tenure is the only thing shameful! You did absolutely nothing for them in the issues if hourly rate, healthcare and pension! But they bought your lies! Along with the people that sold your agenda to get old timers a raise! YOU used them! Now they want there raises and you have NO answers for them!!! The 25 and out issue came about bye the trustees!! Ups knew that local 447 president would vote with them!! 447 had there own deal working! So a vote was cast and accrual rate was cut! ITS called a reduction of benefits!! Remember the phrase! History always repeats itself. As I stated earlier? Howie and Magrene crafted a deal that made ups have keep the accrual rate at $144.00 dollars!! This meant that even if the investments did horrible!! The company had to put money in to keep that $144.00 accrual rate in place!!! That was for the life of the contract! It was originally thought that it was 18 million dollars but market began to fall and there where years of over 25 million dollars where pumped into this local yearly!! Meanwhile our current contract falls short of these numbers even in a stock market that has been working at peak performance and funding relief giving pension funds a break on return investments from bad years! Aka! Kicking the can down the road for today's part timers to have major problems when they one day become full time. [/QUOTE]

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