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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EyesLookingIn" data-source="post: 837764" data-attributes="member: 29664"><p>Very Well said RED , sometimes the best advise comes from outside. I've been a member for Local 804 for over 25 years in my time I have done 3 different jobs. Never was a steward or Alt-steward but I have done a lot with the safety commitees over the years. I have seen my Local go from being respected under Ron Carey to being laughed at under Howie R. We are dealing with old board members that will do anything to get back in , even if it means destroy our local even more to get there. Plus we also have UPS Management people here posting as union members to try and help the old board some how get back in. Trust me when I say that most members laugh at this thread and what is posted here.</p></blockquote><p></p>