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<blockquote data-quote="cannotread" data-source="post: 111384">The job is incredibly easy.&nbsp; I know you think it is advanced, but it ain&#039;t.After leaving, and consulting with a number of other driven-off exTSG folks, it is our collective educated opinion that the work being done in TSG could be done by high school kids or retired moms.&nbsp; To think that you won&#039;t be replaced by non-union office clerks, or even PT hub clerks is sheer ignorant bliss.Think about it;*You don&#039;t have rights to add users or delete users.&nbsp; You can only add users to groups using a web-app that links to AD.&nbsp; Otherwords, you don&#039;t do any AD.*You don&#039;t do DHCP -- other than IPCONFIG /RELEASE ../RENEW -- I&#039;m talking servers.&nbsp; *You don&#039;t do SMS -- no not the dumb UPS tests, I&#039;m talking the MS product.*You don&#039;t even know what VLans are, or how they work.&nbsp; You don&#039;t do routers or switches -- other than screwing them into racks.*You cannot reboot your servers, or even work on them without going to a webpage making your makers aware.*You swap eltrons and symbol scanners.*You are not Dell, Compaq, Cisco, Microsoft, HP, IBM, Gateway, Linux, Unix, Apple, or Citrix certified.&nbsp;&nbsp; You might be A+ and N+ certified.&nbsp; Both are good, but they only open a door to entry level work, they mean nothing else.*You send your equipment to someone else to troubleshoot and repair.*You build everything from images.*You don&#039;t fix workstation issues, you just backup and reghost.*You don&#039;t do networking -- even our switches and routers are preconfigured, or have a download used to patch.*You don&#039;t program or develop.&nbsp; *You use PMT to measure your hours and minutes.&nbsp; What you put in PMT is less important than the requirement to just fill in something.Seriously, I understand that credit should be given to folks for their years of experience -- experience is something that trumps book-skills and classroom education.However, given that, it is realistic to think that several experienced Senior Techs could lead a room of custodian/janitorial employees to install PAS in an entire hub.&nbsp; In fact, given a little time and effort, those custodians could unseat the the technicians.Like the other folks who post about being gone, long gone, from UPS TSG, I agree, it was the best thing that ever happened to me when the downsizing occurred.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="cannotread, post: 111384"] The job is incredibly easy. I know you think it is advanced, but it ain't. After leaving, and consulting with a number of other driven-off exTSG folks, it is our collective educated opinion that the work being done in TSG could be done by high school kids or retired moms. To think that you won't be replaced by non-union office clerks, or even PT hub clerks is sheer ignorant bliss. Think about it; *You don't have rights to add users or delete users. You can only add users to groups using a web-app that links to AD. Otherwords, you don't do any AD. *You don't do DHCP -- other than IPCONFIG /RELEASE ../RENEW -- I'm talking servers. *You don't do SMS -- no not the dumb UPS tests, I'm talking the MS product. *You don't even know what VLans are, or how they work. You don't do routers or switches -- other than screwing them into racks. *You cannot reboot your servers, or even work on them without going to a webpage making your makers aware. *You swap eltrons and symbol scanners. *You are not Dell, Compaq, Cisco, Microsoft, HP, IBM, Gateway, Linux, Unix, Apple, or Citrix certified. You might be A+ and N+ certified. Both are good, but they only open a door to entry level work, they mean nothing else. *You send your equipment to someone else to troubleshoot and repair. *You build everything from images. *You don't fix workstation issues, you just backup and reghost. *You don't do networking -- even our switches and routers are preconfigured, or have a download used to patch. *You don't program or develop. *You use PMT to measure your hours and minutes. What you put in PMT is less important than the requirement to just fill in something. Seriously, I understand that credit should be given to folks for their years of experience -- experience is something that trumps book-skills and classroom education. However, given that, it is realistic to think that several experienced Senior Techs could lead a room of custodian/janitorial employees to install PAS in an entire hub. In fact, given a little time and effort, those custodians could unseat the the technicians. Like the other folks who post about being gone, long gone, from UPS TSG, I agree, it was the best thing that ever happened to me when the downsizing occurred. [/QUOTE]

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