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<blockquote data-quote="SeniorGeek" data-source="post: 78482" data-attributes="member: 4823"><p><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">Some interesting things about the Separation Allowance Plan (SAP) contract </span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">I was given:</span></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">First, I hear there are four versions. One version for District employees </span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">above 40 years of age, another for District employees below 40 years of </span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">age, plus both above- and below-40 versions for the Region (TSC) employees.</span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">The above-40 versions address the Age Discrimination in Employment Act </span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">(ADEA). The part about our payment includes, "</span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I acknowledge that twenty-five percent of the payment is being paid to induce me to release any claims I may have under the [ADEA]</span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">". No, we aren't getting paid more for </span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">being over 40, but we'll get less if we claim age discrimination.</span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">There's a clause that any disputes about interpretation of the contract </span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">will go to arbitration...in Atlanta, with an arbitrator licensed to </span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">practice in Georgia. The laws of Georgia shall apply, and the decision of </span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">the arbitrator is binding.</span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">"<span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I agree not to criticize, denigrate, or disparage any Released Party.</span>" </span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">(The SAP payment is hush money. You won't find many former technicians </span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">posting on Brown Cafe after signing the SAP.)</span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">"</span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I acknowledge and agree that the terms of this Release must be kept strictly confidential. Accordingly, I agree not to disclose or publish to any person or entity, except as required by law or as necessary to prepare tax returns, the terms and conditions or sums being paid in connection with this Release.</span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">" (Note: Our signing date is still in the future. Another </span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">note: UPS appears to acknowledge that some people believe that divulging </span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">earnings on tax returns is not required by law.)</span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">"</span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I acknowledge that, before signing this Release, I was given at least 45 calendar days to consider this Release, as well as the attached statistical data and information.</span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">" (The signing date is set as 2/10/2006. Math is left </span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">to the reader.)</span></li> </ul><p><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">Things I'll be asking an attorney to interpret:</span></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">"</span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Claims I am releasing include, without limitation, claims under...the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974, which, among other things, protects employee benefits;</span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">" - does this mean they can deny retirement </span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">benefits I've accrued?</span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">"</span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I agree that my employment with the Company has been terminated and that I will not seek employment with the Company or any of its affiliates in the future.</span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">" - is there an accepted legal definition of "affiliates"? I want </span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">to know where I might be denied employment in the future.</span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">"<span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I waive any provision of law that limits waivers of unknown claims.</span>" - can laws limiting waivers of waiver-limiting laws be waived? Does that </span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">make any sense?</span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">"<span style="font-family: 'Arial'">I fully understand what this release means</span>" - so I guess the part about </span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">waiving waiver-limiting laws must make sense, otherwise I wouldn't fully </span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'">understand it.</span></li> </ul><p><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'"> </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Fixedsys'"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SeniorGeek, post: 78482, member: 4823"] [FONT=Fixedsys]Some interesting things about the Separation Allowance Plan (SAP) contract [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]I was given:[/FONT] [LIST] [*][FONT=Fixedsys]First, I hear there are four versions. One version for District employees [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]above 40 years of age, another for District employees below 40 years of [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]age, plus both above- and below-40 versions for the Region (TSC) employees.[/FONT] [*][FONT=Fixedsys]The above-40 versions address the Age Discrimination in Employment Act [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys](ADEA). The part about our payment includes, "[/FONT][FONT=Arial]I acknowledge that twenty-five percent of the payment is being paid to induce me to release any claims I may have under the [ADEA][/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]". No, we aren't getting paid more for [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]being over 40, but we'll get less if we claim age discrimination.[/FONT] [*][FONT=Fixedsys]There's a clause that any disputes about interpretation of the contract [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]will go to arbitration...in Atlanta, with an arbitrator licensed to [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]practice in Georgia. The laws of Georgia shall apply, and the decision of [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]the arbitrator is binding.[/FONT] [*][FONT=Fixedsys]"[FONT=Arial]I agree not to criticize, denigrate, or disparage any Released Party.[/FONT]" [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys](The SAP payment is hush money. You won't find many former technicians [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]posting on Brown Cafe after signing the SAP.)[/FONT] [*][FONT=Fixedsys]"[/FONT][FONT=Arial]I acknowledge and agree that the terms of this Release must be kept strictly confidential. Accordingly, I agree not to disclose or publish to any person or entity, except as required by law or as necessary to prepare tax returns, the terms and conditions or sums being paid in connection with this Release.[/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]" (Note: Our signing date is still in the future. Another [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]note: UPS appears to acknowledge that some people believe that divulging [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]earnings on tax returns is not required by law.)[/FONT] [*][FONT=Fixedsys]"[/FONT][FONT=Arial]I acknowledge that, before signing this Release, I was given at least 45 calendar days to consider this Release, as well as the attached statistical data and information.[/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]" (The signing date is set as 2/10/2006. Math is left [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]to the reader.)[/FONT][/LIST][FONT=Fixedsys]Things I'll be asking an attorney to interpret:[/FONT] [LIST] [*][FONT=Fixedsys]"[/FONT][FONT=Arial]Claims I am releasing include, without limitation, claims under...the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974, which, among other things, protects employee benefits;[/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]" - does this mean they can deny retirement [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]benefits I've accrued?[/FONT] [*][FONT=Fixedsys]"[/FONT][FONT=Arial]I agree that my employment with the Company has been terminated and that I will not seek employment with the Company or any of its affiliates in the future.[/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]" - is there an accepted legal definition of "affiliates"? I want [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]to know where I might be denied employment in the future.[/FONT] [*][FONT=Fixedsys]"[FONT=Arial]I waive any provision of law that limits waivers of unknown claims.[/FONT]" - can laws limiting waivers of waiver-limiting laws be waived? Does that [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]make any sense?[/FONT] [*][FONT=Fixedsys]"[FONT=Arial]I fully understand what this release means[/FONT]" - so I guess the part about [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]waiving waiver-limiting laws must make sense, otherwise I wouldn't fully [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]understand it.[/FONT][/LIST][FONT=Fixedsys] [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys] [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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