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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cezanne" data-source="post: 86955" data-attributes="member: 5104">It has been interesting following the posts and comments by our TSG people, nice to see how some professionals use the internet chat forums. As a long time union employee, I could never imagine being without one. It is all about check and balances and leverage, look around and see the employees or employee groups that the company gives a wide berth. Not talking about bad employees, the ones that show up everyday and do a fair days worth of work. I believe it has to do with consequences that could occur if they misuse that authority, in other words making them pay for their mistakes. Sometimes you can get the wrong people in power positions that are not capable of doing the job and resort to intimidation or abuse to get their quotas, afraid alot of them have found this behavior easier to get ahead. This system also applies to lower management dealings with the higher ups, can imagine what we see as the union workforce is just the tip of the iceberg. Most of the loudest protests about unionizing is proceeding out of the mouths of abused supervisors or managers who secretly desire to be in an union. Always cracks me up when I hear somebody from the management level scream about "personal achievement", like it is totally reserved for non-union workers. Most of you TSG workers had dealings with the union workforce (teamsters), who would you say is somebody who you would like to hang around with. In other words, if you were in a war who would you like to be looking out for your back from the foxhole, fellow management or union, trust is always a big issue. Guessing there is alot more "numbero uno" types in management than the union ranks.  You TSG guys and girls are always a joy to work with, the ones I have know stayed in a locked office and always thought of the old "Pinky and the Brain" cartoon when I walked past. You know the mouse that was always trying to take over the world, also had the feeling that management never did trust you guys as company and you could make most of them appear quite stupid. Could be one of the reasons that they are messing with you. As far as unionizing, consider the professional work groups that are union (law enforcement, professional pilots, nurses, teachers and many others). Grant you the unions have their problems, but it does provide protection from ladder climbing management decisions, and any collective barginning in today's age of reducing benefits and looking good on the market is worth considering. Later...<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/thumbup1.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thumbup1:" title="Thumbup1    :thumbup1:" data-shortname=":thumbup1:" /></blockquote>

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