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<blockquote data-quote="some1else" data-source="post: 5558140" data-attributes="member: 18280">Well if it is 100% true that hoffa had his protege hoodwink us with a false conversion into a reformer that would change a lot of peoples view of the situation.&nbsp; Right now we are in trust but verify mode hoping for the best.&nbsp;&nbsp; I would say in that case push O’Brien to put his cards on the table.it’s like we are sending O’Brien to the Chevy dealership to buy us a Silverado, and are trusting him to get the best deal.&nbsp; I would at least want him to tell me “hey I’m trying to get it for 45k, with a free bedliner thrown in” so when he comes back with a number I can see we’ll they offered 47k, a bed liner, and 5 free oil changes&nbsp; hmm that’s not too bad.&nbsp;&nbsp; If I don’t even know what he went in asking for how do I know he didn’t just bring me the offer the dealer made without even fighting for me?That would just be one example I think the majority of memebers would support.&nbsp; The only reason I can think of to not tell us what the ask is, would be to minimize disappointment when the contract falls well short.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you want to bring a fight to the company like he said he does show us what you are asking for so if the company dosnt come close and makes a last and best we can see that.Immediate release:We are telling the company 6 days are killing our members.&nbsp; We informed the company that we want&nbsp; the same deal they give management, if you work 6 days you get an extra vacation day added to your entitlements.&nbsp; I’m bringing a fight to the company and they need to know we are willing to strike over issues like this.&nbsp; Stand strong more updates to follow Something like that vs vague confrontational&nbsp; language lacking any detail</blockquote>

[QUOTE="some1else, post: 5558140, member: 18280"] Well if it is 100% true that hoffa had his protege hoodwink us with a false conversion into a reformer that would change a lot of peoples view of the situation. Right now we are in trust but verify mode hoping for the best. I would say in that case push O’Brien to put his cards on the table. it’s like we are sending O’Brien to the Chevy dealership to buy us a Silverado, and are trusting him to get the best deal. I would at least want him to tell me “hey I’m trying to get it for 45k, with a free bedliner thrown in” so when he comes back with a number I can see we’ll they offered 47k, a bed liner, and 5 free oil changes hmm that’s not too bad. If I don’t even know what he went in asking for how do I know he didn’t just bring me the offer the dealer made without even fighting for me? That would just be one example I think the majority of memebers would support. The only reason I can think of to not tell us what the ask is, would be to minimize disappointment when the contract falls well short. If you want to bring a fight to the company like he said he does show us what you are asking for so if the company dosnt come close and makes a last and best we can see that. [B]Immediate release:[/B] [I]We are telling the company 6 days are killing our members. We informed the company that we want the same deal they give management, if you work 6 days you get an extra vacation day added to your entitlements. I’m bringing a fight to the company and they need to know we are willing to strike over issues like this. Stand strong more updates to follow [/I] Something like that vs vague confrontational language lacking any detail [/QUOTE]

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