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<blockquote data-quote="Well-Known Member" data-source="post: 5056894" data-attributes="member: 85066"><p>Breaking what law? You're expecting a private Company to decide on what is law and what is not?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You expect a private Company to tell the Government what is constitutional and what is not? A private Company just follows the law. They will follow a mandate until it is proven unconstitutional and removed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Threatening the livelihood of Union workers? How? You don't want to get the vaccine, you're welcome to find another job at a Company that wants to defy the Government.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Strike UPS for following a mandate issued by the Federal Government? You're insane.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you don't want to get a vaccine, you're welcome to find another job.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Pretend mandates? Only if the courts say so. We'll see.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The right thing? Defy the Government before it goes through the legal process of the courts?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, it is 50/50. You want UPS to take a chance on a 50/50 gamble?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Union does not bargain over Federal law, or mandates. Federal law overrides the contract each, and every time.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They are not illegal until the Courts say they are.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It is you're opinion, and only you're opinion, to strike over a Federal mandate. Federal laws are not negotiated in the collective bargaining process.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You want UPS to take on the Government on a 50/50 guess? You're insane.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You have no idea what you are talking about. A strike is not used to stand up to the Government. You're insane.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In your opinion. I got the jab to prevent hospitalization and death.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wrong again. I know nobody affected by the vaccine. I know 3 people that died as a result, or side effect, of COVID.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What's happening? Bill Gates putting microchips in the vaccine? The vaccine going to kill everyone in 10 years? The vaccine magnetizing people?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What right decision? Fight the government? You're insane. You're welcome to find a job somewhere else. It's not up to the Union to strike UPS for following mandates issued by the Federal Government.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You expect the Company to go against a Government mandate? Easier to just get along...They can wash their hands. The Government says to get a vaccine, so get a vaccine. Why fight the Government? It would cost billions. And what if the Supreme Court upholds these mandates? UPS would be screwed for fighting them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What right decision? The Government issues a mandate and you expect a private company to take on the government and go against a mandate?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why would a private company spend millions to try and take on the government? You're insane. We are not striking over this. UPS is not requiring this, the Federal Government is.</p><p></p><p>The same with drug tests and DOT physicals. UPS is not requiring them, the Federal Government is. We have to comply.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Well-Known Member, post: 5056894, member: 85066"] Breaking what law? You're expecting a private Company to decide on what is law and what is not? You expect a private Company to tell the Government what is constitutional and what is not? A private Company just follows the law. They will follow a mandate until it is proven unconstitutional and removed. Threatening the livelihood of Union workers? How? You don't want to get the vaccine, you're welcome to find another job at a Company that wants to defy the Government. Strike UPS for following a mandate issued by the Federal Government? You're insane. If you don't want to get a vaccine, you're welcome to find another job. Pretend mandates? Only if the courts say so. We'll see. The right thing? Defy the Government before it goes through the legal process of the courts? So, it is 50/50. You want UPS to take a chance on a 50/50 gamble? The Union does not bargain over Federal law, or mandates. Federal law overrides the contract each, and every time. They are not illegal until the Courts say they are. It is you're opinion, and only you're opinion, to strike over a Federal mandate. Federal laws are not negotiated in the collective bargaining process. You want UPS to take on the Government on a 50/50 guess? You're insane. You have no idea what you are talking about. A strike is not used to stand up to the Government. You're insane. In your opinion. I got the jab to prevent hospitalization and death. Wrong again. I know nobody affected by the vaccine. I know 3 people that died as a result, or side effect, of COVID. What's happening? Bill Gates putting microchips in the vaccine? The vaccine going to kill everyone in 10 years? The vaccine magnetizing people? What right decision? Fight the government? You're insane. You're welcome to find a job somewhere else. It's not up to the Union to strike UPS for following mandates issued by the Federal Government. You expect the Company to go against a Government mandate? Easier to just get along...They can wash their hands. The Government says to get a vaccine, so get a vaccine. Why fight the Government? It would cost billions. And what if the Supreme Court upholds these mandates? UPS would be screwed for fighting them. What right decision? The Government issues a mandate and you expect a private company to take on the government and go against a mandate? Why would a private company spend millions to try and take on the government? You're insane. We are not striking over this. UPS is not requiring this, the Federal Government is. The same with drug tests and DOT physicals. UPS is not requiring them, the Federal Government is. We have to comply. [/QUOTE]
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