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<blockquote data-quote="vexheadroom" data-source="post: 4978295" data-attributes="member: 70924">There was not even a &quot;first lockdown&quot; in the U.S.&nbsp;&nbsp; Y&#039;all don&#039;t know what a lockdown is.&nbsp;&nbsp; China can help with that, if you&#039;re really interested.&nbsp; They&#039;re pretty good at lockdowns of vast swaths of the population there.The &quot;game plan&quot; is no longer about stopping the spread.&nbsp; That is no longer realistic (possibly never was).&nbsp; It&#039;s all about keeping hospitalizations to a manageable level.&nbsp; Thus, no lockdowns or frequent testing, as the &quot;return&quot; on that is not worth the economic disruption.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The focus going forward will be on getting the vaccinated their &quot;boosters&quot; starting on Sept 20.&nbsp; Per WSJ today, it will be after six months, not eight.&nbsp; Which makes a lot more sense, given the recent data.&nbsp;&nbsp; There will not be much resistance.&nbsp; Quite a few folks are already getting third shot. All one has to do is &quot;check&quot; a box on the CVS scheduling website, for example.&nbsp; No doctor note or Rx needed.&nbsp; &nbsp; Plus there will be the&nbsp; continued push for first-time vaccinations, which will accumulate over time, as more employers, and their employees, cave.Meanwhile, the pool of unvaxxed and uninfected will continue to shrink.&nbsp;&nbsp; Eventually that pool will start to creep back up after acquired immunity starts to wane, but that&#039;s a problem for next year, not this fall, as acquired immunity last longer than vaccine induced immunity.&nbsp; But whether vaccinated or infected, even with waning circulating antibodies, memory B-cells are holding at steady levels, and those are the cells that crank out fresh antibodies when re-exposed to the pathogen, thus generally preventing severe disease.Then, early winter, the kids 12 and under can get vaxxed.&nbsp;&nbsp; That won&#039;t really matter by then - they will all have acquired immunity by then.&nbsp;&nbsp; Well, maybe not all of them.&nbsp; Just every single one that goes to school, pre-school, or daycare.&nbsp; Masking is probably irrelevant in those environments.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="vexheadroom, post: 4978295, member: 70924"] There was not even a "first lockdown" in the U.S. Y'all don't know what a lockdown is. China can help with that, if you're really interested. They're pretty good at lockdowns of vast swaths of the population there. The "game plan" is no longer about stopping the spread. That is no longer realistic (possibly never was). It's all about keeping hospitalizations to a manageable level. Thus, no lockdowns or frequent testing, as the "return" on that is not worth the economic disruption. The focus going forward will be on getting the vaccinated their "boosters" starting on Sept 20. Per WSJ today, it will be after six months, not eight. Which makes a lot more sense, given the recent data. There will not be much resistance. Quite a few folks are already getting third shot. All one has to do is "check" a box on the CVS scheduling website, for example. No doctor note or Rx needed. Plus there will be the continued push for first-time vaccinations, which will accumulate over time, as more employers, and their employees, cave. Meanwhile, the pool of unvaxxed and uninfected will continue to shrink. Eventually that pool will start to creep back up after acquired immunity starts to wane, but that's a problem for next year, not this fall, as acquired immunity last longer than vaccine induced immunity. But whether vaccinated or infected, even with waning circulating antibodies, memory B-cells are holding at steady levels, and those are the cells that crank out fresh antibodies when re-exposed to the pathogen, thus generally preventing severe disease. Then, early winter, the kids 12 and under can get vaxxed. That won't really matter by then - they will all have acquired immunity by then. Well, maybe not all of them. Just every single one that goes to school, pre-school, or daycare. Masking is probably irrelevant in those environments. [/QUOTE]

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