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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5211772" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>If you&#039;re going to look at everything like that then how do you know babies are being aborted?&nbsp; Someone told you so?&nbsp; Have there really been 60 million+ abortions?&nbsp; How do you know?&nbsp; I&#039;m not pro-abortion, hate it.&nbsp; Just illustrating how we can take things to extremes.&nbsp; There isn&#039;t some media collusion thing going on about Ukraine.&nbsp; Millions of Ukrainians have fled the country as the Russians have and are targeting civilians.&nbsp; Those are very real explosions and their aftermath being shown on tv, not some staged events trying to sway public sentiment.&nbsp; For whatever reason you&#039;ve chosen a side and refuse to believe they&#039;re committing atrocities.&nbsp; And believe you&#039;ve got it right and everyone else is wrong.&nbsp; We certainly have a media that colludes to favor one candidate over another.&nbsp; But they aren&#039;t all powerful and can&#039;t hide the truth from everyone.&nbsp; The truth gets out eventually and not all media outlets participate in trying to influence us a certain way.&nbsp; It&#039;s easy to write them all off but you&#039;re only hurting yourself.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 5211772, member: 24302"] If you're going to look at everything like that then how do you know babies are being aborted? Someone told you so? Have there really been 60 million+ abortions? How do you know? I'm not pro-abortion, hate it. Just illustrating how we can take things to extremes. There isn't some media collusion thing going on about Ukraine. Millions of Ukrainians have fled the country as the Russians have and are targeting civilians. Those are very real explosions and their aftermath being shown on tv, not some staged events trying to sway public sentiment. For whatever reason you've chosen a side and refuse to believe they're committing atrocities. And believe you've got it right and everyone else is wrong. We certainly have a media that colludes to favor one candidate over another. But they aren't all powerful and can't hide the truth from everyone. The truth gets out eventually and not all media outlets participate in trying to influence us a certain way. It's easy to write them all off but you're only hurting yourself. [/QUOTE]

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