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Why are the negotiations so private?
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<blockquote data-quote="wilberforce15" data-source="post: 3573519" data-attributes="member: 5053"><p>The union gave them a throwaway PT job, and then the employees treat it like a throwaway PT job. Nobody's going to take their personal time or interest to attend meetings and vote with $10/hr, no benefits, no paid days, etc. If they are "successful," what exactly do they get? Nothing. Even the health insurance isn't that big of a deal to young guys.</p><p></p><p>They don't feel or act invested because they aren't invested <em>in</em>.</p><p></p><p>I think everyone recognizes that PTers don't vote and aren't active. That's not offensive. It's plain true. The question is whether that's their stupid, entitled fault or the fault of a union that gave them a crap job for years. I'm as active as I can be, but when I talk to a new employee, I cannot make any kind of decent case that they should care about the union. They get to pay money for nothing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wilberforce15, post: 3573519, member: 5053"] The union gave them a throwaway PT job, and then the employees treat it like a throwaway PT job. Nobody's going to take their personal time or interest to attend meetings and vote with $10/hr, no benefits, no paid days, etc. If they are "successful," what exactly do they get? Nothing. Even the health insurance isn't that big of a deal to young guys. They don't feel or act invested because they aren't invested [I]in[/I]. I think everyone recognizes that PTers don't vote and aren't active. That's not offensive. It's plain true. The question is whether that's their stupid, entitled fault or the fault of a union that gave them a crap job for years. I'm as active as I can be, but when I talk to a new employee, I cannot make any kind of decent case that they should care about the union. They get to pay money for nothing. [/QUOTE]
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