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<blockquote data-quote="refineryworker05" data-source="post: 2899842" data-attributes="member: 66082">No offense but none of that stuff matters.&nbsp; No one cares about the national debt, certainly not conservatives.&nbsp; Elected conservatives care deeply about income tax cuts for rich and big business, they care about crafting regulatory policy to favor those interests and they care about military spending because that&#039;s a way to boost government spending in their districts and it not be considered government waste by other conservatives.The rest of this whole mirage of conservative ideology is irrelevant to conservatives none of it matters.If you care about the national debt why are you supporting conservatives who don&#039;t care one bit about this issue?Again, the big problem with our political system is that we have a huge percentage of Americans who see other Americans as threatening as damaging their nation as not as American as they are, so they support the crap policies of conservatives because they believe those conservative policies will &quot;hurt&quot; those other Americans they see as a threat.I truly wish this were not the case, but conservatives don&#039;t actually believe anything. Trump is proving this.&nbsp; All of this stuff about being angry at Hilary for profiting off her office and Trump has brought his whole family in on the grift and he is doing it right in front of everyone and conservatives don&#039;t care at all.All of that anger at Obama golfing and Trump golfs more than anyone after saying if elected he wouldn&#039;t golf at all and conservatives don&#039;t care.All of that hand wringing about why doesn&#039;t President Obama go to church and Trump objectively is the least religious President by far in my lifetime and it doesn&#039;t matter to conservatives.I could go, but conservatives don&#039;t actually believe the stuff they talk about. Again, look at the Iraq War, conservatives defended that war for over a decade and Trump comes along completely trashes that War and now conservatives don&#039;t even bother defending the Iraq War.Its because they don&#039;t actually believe in anything.&nbsp; They just view conservative ideology as being exclusionary of certain kinds of Americans and as such they believe that conservative ideology and conservative policies will hurt those Americans they don&#039;t like.This is the ideology that drives this conservative movement for elected officials( who also deeply care about their plutocratic economic policies) and rank and file voters.&nbsp; Again I wish this wasn&#039;t so, but Trump has broken damn near every promise objectively already and it doesn&#039;t matter to conservatives.&nbsp; He is a liar, a cheater, a fool, uniformed, etc and it doesn&#039;t matter.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="refineryworker05, post: 2899842, member: 66082"] No offense but none of that stuff matters. No one cares about the national debt, certainly not conservatives. Elected conservatives care deeply about income tax cuts for rich and big business, they care about crafting regulatory policy to favor those interests and they care about military spending because that's a way to boost government spending in their districts and it not be considered government waste by other conservatives. The rest of this whole mirage of conservative ideology is irrelevant to conservatives none of it matters. If you care about the national debt why are you supporting conservatives who don't care one bit about this issue? Again, the big problem with our political system is that we have a huge percentage of Americans who see other Americans as threatening as damaging their nation as not as American as they are, so they support the crap policies of conservatives because they believe those conservative policies will "hurt" those other Americans they see as a threat. I truly wish this were not the case, but conservatives don't actually believe anything. Trump is proving this. All of this stuff about being angry at Hilary for profiting off her office and Trump has brought his whole family in on the grift and he is doing it right in front of everyone and conservatives don't care at all. All of that anger at Obama golfing and Trump golfs more than anyone after saying if elected he wouldn't golf at all and conservatives don't care. All of that hand wringing about why doesn't President Obama go to church and Trump objectively is the least religious President by far in my lifetime and it doesn't matter to conservatives. I could go, but conservatives don't actually believe the stuff they talk about. Again, look at the Iraq War, conservatives defended that war for over a decade and Trump comes along completely trashes that War and now conservatives don't even bother defending the Iraq War. Its because they don't actually believe in anything. They just view conservative ideology as being exclusionary of certain kinds of Americans and as such they believe that conservative ideology and conservative policies will hurt those Americans they don't like. This is the ideology that drives this conservative movement for elected officials( who also deeply care about their plutocratic economic policies) and rank and file voters. Again I wish this wasn't so, but Trump has broken damn near every promise objectively already and it doesn't matter to conservatives. He is a liar, a cheater, a fool, uniformed, etc and it doesn't matter. [/QUOTE]

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