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<blockquote data-quote="refineryworker05" data-source="post: 2906887" data-attributes="member: 66082">First off, I am responding to your topic.&nbsp; I said nothing about money.&nbsp; I said nothing about how great Democrats are.&nbsp; Hillary Clinton, I said nothing about my party affiliation.You keep missing the point that I am making, you posted about the left blah, blah, blah, but my point is the problem that conservative voters have with the left isn&#039;t about policy.&nbsp; It is about who, conservatives voters think the left helps the wrongs kinds of Americans.&nbsp; That&#039;s why they hate Democrats not over policy, not over corruption, not over emails, none of that stuff matters to conservatives/republicans. So they support republicans because republicans advance a more exclusionary vision of America government functions which only help the rich.&nbsp;&nbsp; These voters hope that republicans will hurt those Americans who they don&#039;t want the government to help because they perceive those Americans to be a threat to their America.&nbsp; This is an ugly ugly belief system which forms the core of the conservative party.If conservatives voters perceive so called left policies to help the right kinds of Americans, they don&#039;t care about left or right, they only care about who.&nbsp; So the whole oh the left this and the left that dislike isn&#039;t based on policy but based on the genuine belief that republican elected officials hate the same Americans that they hate.My other point about elected republicans is that the only thing they believe, the core of their ideology is plutocratic economic policies, so I am not saying republicans are following the money. I am saying they an ideological belief system that wants to construct tax policy and regulations to favor the rich and powerful, and that their support of Trump proves how they don&#039;t care about the vast majority of the other stuff they claim to care about and it shows that conservatism as a set of policy beliefs doesn&#039;t have much support amongst voters.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="refineryworker05, post: 2906887, member: 66082"] First off, I am responding to your topic. I said nothing about money. I said nothing about how great Democrats are. Hillary Clinton, I said nothing about my party affiliation. You keep missing the point that I am making, you posted about the left blah, blah, blah, but my point is the problem that conservative voters have with the left isn't about policy. It is about who, conservatives voters think the left helps the wrongs kinds of Americans. That's why they hate Democrats not over policy, not over corruption, not over emails, none of that stuff matters to conservatives/republicans. So they support republicans because republicans advance a more exclusionary vision of America government functions which only help the rich. These voters hope that republicans will hurt those Americans who they don't want the government to help because they perceive those Americans to be a threat to their America. This is an ugly ugly belief system which forms the core of the conservative party. If conservatives voters perceive so called left policies to help the right kinds of Americans, they don't care about left or right, they only care about who. So the whole oh the left this and the left that dislike isn't based on policy but based on the genuine belief that republican elected officials hate the same Americans that they hate. My other point about elected republicans is that the only thing they believe, the core of their ideology is plutocratic economic policies, so I am not saying republicans are following the money. I am saying they an ideological belief system that wants to construct tax policy and regulations to favor the rich and powerful, and that their support of Trump proves how they don't care about the vast majority of the other stuff they claim to care about and it shows that conservatism as a set of policy beliefs doesn't have much support amongst voters. [/QUOTE]

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