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<blockquote data-quote="bear123" data-source="post: 252387" data-attributes="member: 5196"><p>Okay--Let's review what you just stated:</p><p>1) UPS is one of the best places to work. Top salary is 28 per hour.</p><p><em>Yeah, if you were hired before 1982. What about now. You </em></p><p><em>think 8.50 an hour is fair for a new hire? In California, in a couple of </em></p><p><em>years, 8.50 will be minimum wage. </em></p><p>2) A new hire gets 25% raise in 90 days. Is that really unfair?</p><p><em>Damned right it is unfair. What kind of motivation is it knowing you </em></p><p><em>have to work 90 working days, (that's 4 and a half months) before you </em></p><p><em>get that raise. Coupled with a new hire wont even get any benefits </em></p><p><em>for the first year and has to wait another 6 months after that before his </em></p><p><em>family is covered.</em></p><p> </p><p>Let's put it this way, 30 years ago, UPS <em>was</em> the best place to work. Starting wage at that time was 6.50 an hour, which is nothing now. But considering that minimum wage was 2.00, 6.50 was a fortune then. In other wordsm that would be equivalant to minimum wage now is 7.00 and UPS starting wage is 22.00 an hour. 30 years ago, when I started, people were standing in line 50 deep to be interviewed because not only the pay, but also the benefits. </p><p>Do you think new hires now are standing in line 50 fifty deep to be interviewed? NO!!! For UPS to get new hires now, they have to offer earn and learn program. Give them $200.00 bonus if they pass a sort test. Offer a shuttle service for people who dont have means of transportation. I have heard of supervisors even going to a worker's house to pick them up. I also have heard of workers being gone a week with a no call-no show. They come back the next week and nothing happens to them. When I started, if you were a no call-no show for ONE day, you had better had a very good reason why you weren't able to come to work or you were gone. End of story. Reason being there are 50 people that would be more than happy to take your place.</p><p> </p><p>And you call us disgruntled? Don't get me wrong. Being with UPS I have had my share of problems with supervisors and managers from Hell. In the long run, I am very happy where I am. Yes UPS has been good to me. I am simply concerned about the new hires. With the pay rate and no benefits for one year, the quality of work will be next to nil and that affects everybody.</p><p> </p><p>Comments anyone?----By the way, I am not a supervisor. I have been a proud Teamster for 30 years.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bear123, post: 252387, member: 5196"] Okay--Let's review what you just stated: 1) UPS is one of the best places to work. Top salary is 28 per hour. [I]Yeah, if you were hired before 1982. What about now. You [/I] [I]think 8.50 an hour is fair for a new hire? In California, in a couple of [/I] [I]years, 8.50 will be minimum wage. [/I] 2) A new hire gets 25% raise in 90 days. Is that really unfair? [I]Damned right it is unfair. What kind of motivation is it knowing you [/I] [I]have to work 90 working days, (that's 4 and a half months) before you [/I] [I]get that raise. Coupled with a new hire wont even get any benefits [/I] [I]for the first year and has to wait another 6 months after that before his [/I] [I]family is covered.[/I] Let's put it this way, 30 years ago, UPS [I]was[/I] the best place to work. Starting wage at that time was 6.50 an hour, which is nothing now. But considering that minimum wage was 2.00, 6.50 was a fortune then. In other wordsm that would be equivalant to minimum wage now is 7.00 and UPS starting wage is 22.00 an hour. 30 years ago, when I started, people were standing in line 50 deep to be interviewed because not only the pay, but also the benefits. Do you think new hires now are standing in line 50 fifty deep to be interviewed? NO!!! For UPS to get new hires now, they have to offer earn and learn program. Give them $200.00 bonus if they pass a sort test. Offer a shuttle service for people who dont have means of transportation. I have heard of supervisors even going to a worker's house to pick them up. I also have heard of workers being gone a week with a no call-no show. They come back the next week and nothing happens to them. When I started, if you were a no call-no show for ONE day, you had better had a very good reason why you weren't able to come to work or you were gone. End of story. Reason being there are 50 people that would be more than happy to take your place. And you call us disgruntled? Don't get me wrong. Being with UPS I have had my share of problems with supervisors and managers from Hell. In the long run, I am very happy where I am. Yes UPS has been good to me. I am simply concerned about the new hires. With the pay rate and no benefits for one year, the quality of work will be next to nil and that affects everybody. Comments anyone?----By the way, I am not a supervisor. I have been a proud Teamster for 30 years. [/QUOTE]
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