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<blockquote data-quote="agitator" data-source="post: 255680" data-attributes="member: 11604">&quot;As govt expands, liberty contracts&quot;..so says govols019....dont belive the hype on the libertarian stuff bro...its not govt that is the problem..its WHO CONTROLS THE GOVT...if govt is controlled by the wealthy and powerful corporate elites, then there is a threat to our economic and civil and environmental liberties/rights...but govt in the hands of WE THE PEOPLE, the hard working people who create the welath in this country...then its a good entity, which can protect us from big business crimes...Remember it was big govt that rescued our asses from the Great Depression...and gave us the 40 hr work week, and no child labor laws and the right to organize and collectively bargain and strike and gave us pensions and minimum wages..etc Granted some of these rights have been wittled away under right wing policies over the past 40 yrs or so.. BUT DONT PUT DOWN GOVT AND THE POSITIVE THINGS IT HAS DONE...just fight to put that power into the correct hands: the worker/union not Big Business...the environment not the polluter...the home owner, not the local chemical company, ..the renter/home owner not the banker/creditor....etc..KEEP THE FAITH!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="agitator, post: 255680, member: 11604"] "As govt expands, liberty contracts"..so says [B]govols019....[/B]dont belive the hype on the libertarian stuff bro...its not govt that is the problem..its WHO CONTROLS THE GOVT...if govt is controlled by the wealthy and powerful corporate elites, then there is a threat to our economic and civil and environmental liberties/rights...but govt in the hands of WE THE PEOPLE, the hard working people who create the welath in this country...then its a good entity, which can protect us from big business crimes...Remember it was big govt that rescued our asses from the Great Depression...and gave us the 40 hr work week, and no child labor laws and the right to organize and collectively bargain and strike and gave us pensions and minimum wages..etc Granted some of these rights have been wittled away under right wing policies over the past 40 yrs or so.. BUT DONT PUT DOWN GOVT AND THE POSITIVE THINGS IT HAS DONE...just fight to put that power into the correct hands: the worker/union not Big Business...the environment not the polluter...the home owner, not the local chemical company, ..the renter/home owner not the banker/creditor....etc..KEEP THE FAITH! [/QUOTE]

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