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<blockquote data-quote="pontiac467" data-source="post: 259619" data-attributes="member: 7871"><p>i really dont think people are going to vote no because of the raises, i am in feeders but not in cs but i have talked to other drivers in cs and the biggest thing they complain about is the subcontracting. They tell me if it wasnt for the new subcontracting lanuage they would vote yes. most of the drivers i talked to are not close to retirement mabye thats why they feel like they do including me, if this passes it WILL shrink the feeder department. Just my opinion, but im sure if you were in package car there would be your own set of complaints about the contract. The point is i think most of the people that work for ups could find something wrong with it. 6 billion is alot of money and im sure they expect something in return but it should not be the elimination of jobs, the way the new subcontracting lanuage is i think that will happen.&nbsp; The guy with 20+ years left wont like the contract and the guy getting ready to retire more than likely will like it.&nbsp; Plus i believe its just a tempoary fix to the pension.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="pontiac467, post: 259619, member: 7871"] i really dont think people are going to vote no because of the raises, i am in feeders but not in cs but i have talked to other drivers in cs and the biggest thing they complain about is the subcontracting. They tell me if it wasnt for the new subcontracting lanuage they would vote yes. most of the drivers i talked to are not close to retirement mabye thats why they feel like they do including me, if this passes it WILL shrink the feeder department. Just my opinion, but im sure if you were in package car there would be your own set of complaints about the contract. The point is i think most of the people that work for ups could find something wrong with it. 6 billion is alot of money and im sure they expect something in return but it should not be the elimination of jobs, the way the new subcontracting lanuage is i think that will happen. The guy with 20+ years left wont like the contract and the guy getting ready to retire more than likely will like it. Plus i believe its just a tempoary fix to the pension. [/QUOTE]

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