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<blockquote data-quote="sawdusttv" data-source="post: 260248" data-attributes="member: 7476">Tie,&nbsp;let me clear something up for you.We did not ask the company to turn our pension over to the teamsters and CS. That was a decision totally between UPS and the teamsters, and for 30 years before our people started drawing on this pension fund, everything was wonderful. As soon as we started drawing the crying started. Anyone with any intelligence knows that UPS was well aware of these problems and since they are the one that made the decision to turn it over, the company should have stepped in long ago and done something. Not waited until it was time for us to start drawing our pension.&nbsp; This mess was created by the company and the union, not the hourly employees. We did our part. We busted our butts and backs for 30 years or more. Now that it is time to reap the benifits of that hard work the company and union are telling us that the benifits are not there.&nbsp;We earned this pension, and to insinuate that it is our responsiblity to fix the problem is utterly crazy! We should not be expected to make any concessions what so ever. It is the companies and unions responsibility to fix the problem and give us what is rightfully ours, and quite frankly, we don&#039;t care which one foots the bill, or if they share in it. But it should not be us, the hourlies paying for it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="sawdusttv, post: 260248, member: 7476"] Tie, let me clear something up for you. We did not ask the company to turn our pension over to the teamsters and CS. That was a decision totally between UPS and the teamsters, and for 30 years before our people started drawing on this pension fund, everything was wonderful. As soon as we started drawing the crying started. Anyone with any intelligence knows that UPS was well aware of these problems and since they are the one that made the decision to turn it over, the company should have stepped in long ago and done something. Not waited until it was time for us to start drawing our pension. This mess was created by the company and the union, not the hourly employees. We did our part. We busted our butts and backs for 30 years or more. Now that it is time to reap the benifits of that hard work the company and union are telling us that the benifits are not there. We earned this pension, and to insinuate that it is our responsiblity to fix the problem is utterly crazy! We should not be expected to make any concessions what so ever. It is the companies and unions responsibility to fix the problem and give us what is rightfully ours, and quite frankly, we don't care which one foots the bill, or if they share in it. But it should not be us, the hourlies paying for it. [/QUOTE]

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