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Message: <blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 2598540" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>Our current workers have paid for current retirees, as well as the disabled and orphans, with that particular tax.  That has nothing to do with how irresponsible our gov't has been with spending and that includes the Bush administration too.  SS is a social covenant between generations.  If it's not there what do you do with the current retirees?  If you want to talk means testing to receive it or a reduced amount fine.  If you want to tax all income for it, fine by me.  But as I've said before, it's the best idea IMO the Democrats ever came up with and to end it just to continue unsustainable spending and debt is heartless.  Aren't you really saying we should redistribute wealth from the middle class to the poor now and they'll just have to figure how to survive in their old age?</p></blockquote><p></p>