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rickyb

Well-Known Member
israeli occupies other countries. they defend the occupation.

there was protests against the iraq war, vietnam war. should there be more protests? yes absolutely.

galloway says america wasnt accused of genocide. i accuse america of genocide after it used nukes.



btw GE which owns msnbc is a major weapons manufacturer. so they like war.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
israeli occupies other countries. they defend the occupation.

there was protests against the iraq war, vietnam war. should there be more protests? yes absolutely.

galloway says america wasnt accused of genocide. i accuse america of genocide after it used nukes.



btw GE which owns msnbc is a major weapons manufacturer. so they like war.
Was Japan committing genocide against China?
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
i accuse america of genocide after it used nukes.
Was Japan committing genocide against China?
post some links!

20 million Chinese died while the Japanese were in China.


The Japanese were also depraved beyond belief while they were there.


"Unit 731 (Japanese: 731部隊, Hepburn: Nana-san-ichi Butai),[note 1] short for Manchu Detachment 731 and also known as the Kamo Detachment[3]: 198  and the Ishii Unit,[5] was a covert biological and chemical warfare research and development unit of the Imperial Japanese Army that engaged in lethal human experimentation and biological weapons manufacturing during the Second Sino-Japanese War (1937–1945) and World War II. It killed an estimated 200,000 to 300,000 people. It was based in the Pingfang district of Harbin, the largest city in the Japanese puppet state of Manchukuo (now Northeast China) and had active branch offices throughout China and Southeast Asia.

Unit 731 was responsible for some of the most notorious war crimes committed by the Japanese armed forces. It routinely conducted tests on people who were dehumanized and internally referred to as "logs". Experiments included disease injections, controlled dehydration, biological weapons testing, hypobaric pressure chamber testing, vivisection, organ harvesting, amputation, and standard weapons testing. Victims included not only kidnapped men, women (including pregnant women) and children but also babies born from the systemic rape perpetrated by the staff inside the compound. The victims also came from different nationalities, with the majority being Chinese and a significant minority being Russian. Additionally, Unit 731 produced biological weapons that were used in areas of China not occupied by Japanese forces, which included Chinese cities and towns, water sources, and fields. Estimates of those killed by Unit 731 and its related programs range up to half a million people, and none of the inmates survived. In the final moments of the Second World War, all prisoners were killed to conceal evidence."


"A 1946 international postwar tribunal concluded at least 200,000 civilians were killed by Japanese troops in a weekslong frenzy of murder, rape, looting and arson after Nanking — China’s capital at the time — fell on Dec. 13, 1937"
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
israeli occupies other countries. they defend the occupation.

there was protests against the iraq war, vietnam war. should there be more protests? yes absolutely.

galloway says america wasnt accused of genocide. i accuse america of genocide after it used nukes.



btw GE which owns msnbc is a major weapons manufacturer. so they like war.
The use of nukes was warranted.
The Japanese Military still refused to surrender after the second one was deployed.
They were determined to fight until the last person died.

The Allies War Planners estimated a troop death of 1 million if Japan was invaded.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
See? You spout off about Israel all the time and you don't have a clue about wars and casualties. It's a very nasty business but totally avoidable if you don't brutally attack civilians like on October 7th, 2023.
israel "mowed the lawn" prior to oct 7.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
The use of nukes was warranted.
The Japanese Military still refused to surrender after the second one was deployed.
They were determined to fight until the last person died.

The Allies War Planners estimated a troop death of 1 million if Japan was invaded.
no there is no excuse for killing civilians with nukes.

how many civilians died with those 2 nukes?
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
no there is no excuse for killing civilians with nukes.

how many civilians died with those 2 nukes?

“Both sides braced for heavy casualties. The U.S. military, expecting resistance by a “fanatically hostile population,” made preparations for between 1.7 and four million casualties with up to 800,000 dead. Between five and 10 million Japanese deaths were projected.

The Japanese leadership had no illusions that this final act of resistance would somehow lead to victory, but many in the high command were optimistic that a spirited defence might compel the Allies to negotiate a favourable peace rather than spend the resources and lives in such an epic fight.”
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
no there is no excuse for killing civilians with nukes.

how many civilians died with those 2 nukes?
More civilians died from the fire bombings of Osaka and Tokyo than from the nukes. So you're saying that the U.S. should have let a million of its soldiers die invading Japan, plus who knows how many Japanese, rather than end the war by killing a couple hundred thousand with nukes?
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
20 million Chinese died while the Japanese were in China.


The Japanese were also depraved beyond belief while they were there.


"Unit 731 (Japanese: 731部隊, Hepburn: Nana-san-ichi Butai),[note 1] short for Manchu Detachment 731 and also known as the Kamo Detachment[3]: 198  and the Ishii Unit,[5] was a covert biological and chemical warfare research and development unit of the Imperial Japanese Army that engaged in lethal human experimentation and biological weapons manufacturing during the Second Sino-Japanese War (1937–1945) and World War II. It killed an estimated 200,000 to 300,000 people. It was based in the Pingfang district of Harbin, the largest city in the Japanese puppet state of Manchukuo (now Northeast China) and had active branch offices throughout China and Southeast Asia.

Unit 731 was responsible for some of the most notorious war crimes committed by the Japanese armed forces. It routinely conducted tests on people who were dehumanized and internally referred to as "logs". Experiments included disease injections, controlled dehydration, biological weapons testing, hypobaric pressure chamber testing, vivisection, organ harvesting, amputation, and standard weapons testing. Victims included not only kidnapped men, women (including pregnant women) and children but also babies born from the systemic rape perpetrated by the staff inside the compound. The victims also came from different nationalities, with the majority being Chinese and a significant minority being Russian. Additionally, Unit 731 produced biological weapons that were used in areas of China not occupied by Japanese forces, which included Chinese cities and towns, water sources, and fields. Estimates of those killed by Unit 731 and its related programs range up to half a million people, and none of the inmates survived. In the final moments of the Second World War, all prisoners were killed to conceal evidence."


"A 1946 international postwar tribunal concluded at least 200,000 civilians were killed by Japanese troops in a weekslong frenzy of murder, rape, looting and arson after Nanking — China’s capital at the time — fell on Dec. 13, 1937"
truly satanic. and if you want to call this a genocide go
20 million Chinese died while the Japanese were in China.


The Japanese were also depraved beyond belief while they were there.


"Unit 731 (Japanese: 731部隊, Hepburn: Nana-san-ichi Butai),[note 1] short for Manchu Detachment 731 and also known as the Kamo Detachment[3]: 198  and the Ishii Unit,[5] was a covert biological and chemical warfare research and development unit of the Imperial Japanese Army that engaged in lethal human experimentation and biological weapons manufacturing during the Second Sino-Japanese War (1937–1945) and World War II. It killed an estimated 200,000 to 300,000 people. It was based in the Pingfang district of Harbin, the largest city in the Japanese puppet state of Manchukuo (now Northeast China) and had active branch offices throughout China and Southeast Asia.

Unit 731 was responsible for some of the most notorious war crimes committed by the Japanese armed forces. It routinely conducted tests on people who were dehumanized and internally referred to as "logs". Experiments included disease injections, controlled dehydration, biological weapons testing, hypobaric pressure chamber testing, vivisection, organ harvesting, amputation, and standard weapons testing. Victims included not only kidnapped men, women (including pregnant women) and children but also babies born from the systemic rape perpetrated by the staff inside the compound. The victims also came from different nationalities, with the majority being Chinese and a significant minority being Russian. Additionally, Unit 731 produced biological weapons that were used in areas of China not occupied by Japanese forces, which included Chinese cities and towns, water sources, and fields. Estimates of those killed by Unit 731 and its related programs range up to half a million people, and none of the inmates survived. In the final moments of the Second World War, all prisoners were killed to conceal evidence."


"A 1946 international postwar tribunal concluded at least 200,000 civilians were killed by Japanese troops in a weekslong frenzy of murder, rape, looting and arson after Nanking — China’s capital at the time — fell on Dec. 13, 1937"
truly satanic. sounds like a genocide too. its good to know about the depths of depravity in each and every one of us and to always be vigilant.

this reminds me of the people who thought the covid vaccinations were bad. i cant blame them for thinking that based on the number of drugs which are on the market and actually not safe.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
More civilians died from the fire bombings of Osaka and Tokyo than from the nukes. So you're saying that the U.S. should have let a million of its soldiers die invading Japan, plus who knows how many Japanese, rather than end the war by killing a couple hundred thousand with nukes?
Don't forget the innocent dogs that were killed....
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
truly satanic. and if you want to call this a genocide go

truly satanic. sounds like a genocide too. its good to know about the depths of depravity in each and every one of us and to always be vigilant.

this reminds me of the people who thought the covid vaccinations were bad. i cant blame them for thinking that based on the number of drugs which are on the market and actually not safe.
Do you equate what the Japanese did with what the Israelis are doing?
 
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