Great leadership.You mean like telematics that we’ve had for over 20 years
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Yeah, it was a great parallel case they had that went nowhere? No discipline, no hearing, What the hell are you even talking about? Again show me the video of people in the back of their trucks. Otherwise shut theGreat leadership.
“Uh they are already spying on us so why complain about more advanced spying
So you are admitting you are aware of them using evidence they can’t introduce in a grievance hearing to build a parallel case against the employee but are posting on here if no one has the video it’s not a big deal?
up. I’m gonna guess you’re gonna have to shut the up.
He wasn't from Local 41.
Prove to me that management dosnt use the video to decide which drivers to target and conduct observations for specific things. If you can’t prove that never happened shut theYeah, it was a great parallel case they had that went nowhere? No discipline, no hearing, What the hell are you even talking about? Again show me the video of people in the back of their trucks. Otherwise shut the
up and pay double dues money this month as penalty for being a scab
Sorry you’re gonna have to prove to me that they do. Which by the way you can’t because they don’t.. even more. How can there be any case against you when there’s no progressive discipline, written down, because they cant write you up for any of these things? You get the company way too much credit thinking they have all this ability to see things they don’t. If they did, and they could most of us would probably be fired. Lol.Prove to me that management dosnt use the video to decide which drivers to target and conduct observations for specific things. If you can’t prove that never happened shut the
I can definitely prove it’s never happened because like I said, I’ve been involved in every step of this process for the last two years at every level of discipline never seen a inward camera video, my friend, even though you’ve seen them.Prove to me that management dosnt use the video to decide which drivers to target and conduct observations for specific things. If you can’t prove that never happened shut the
where is the secret court?
Ok now you’re going back to claiming you don’t understand parallel construction and are unqualified to be a union representative?
Imagine being a lawyer and skipping over the whole was the investigation predicted on Legitimate reasonable suspicion part. Throw out the fruit of the poison tree part. Ignore the (in the news section 702) illegal warrantless spying that made your client the suspect in the first place.I can definitely prove it’s never happened because like I said, I’ve been involved in every step of this process for the last two years at every level of discipline never seen a inward camera video, my friend, even though you’ve seen them.
All I’m asking you is to show me the video. Come on smart guy show us you’ve got the goods. Why aren’t you laying them out?
We’re not lawyers, genius and there is no case to present when there is no case from the company. Would you like me to present a case that the company can’t move forward with? Seems like I would get someone fired doing that.
My claim is that they use the video to decide who to target. I’m assuming you understand this and are muddying the waters to protect the inept union
What proof do you have that non of the disciplined you represented where not targeted with information like the video that they did not show, but built a seperate case based on the video making the driver a target
They use the information to target people for sure. Again, have you not worked here for 20+ years, been doing that with Telematics for decades.
If management uses that technology to go out and follow someone, there’s really not much we can do. Except tell people to follow the methods. The methods are your friend.
Ok why is it ok to let them get even more advanced technology?
No, I was sure he wasn’t from 41, but yes, I did check which local he was from. Glad you did too.You weren't even sure.
He was 414.
Could pass a contract saying they can’t have cameras
Well, the best we could do was tell the company they couldn’t use the camera functionality. And I’m guessing it was OK with 80% of the membership.
Probably because actual lawyers said that it wasn’t a fight we could win. And the membership voted yes for the current language. These stupid things are industry standard now and most of them have a camera inside the cab. we at least have language saying they can’t any use information from it can’t be used to discipline solely based off it. Can management come out and follow you? Of course they can and will continue to do so probably forever because they’re sneaky little bitches.
