“Toxic masculinity”

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
Why is this funny to you?

In my experience government is innovative in good ways at times and in bad ways at other times.

Is it your opinion that Government is not innovative?
Government is rarely thought of as innovative. Most people when asked about government think of red tape, bloat, bureaucracy and inefficiency. Innovation requires being nimble., able to change quickly and thinking outside the box. These are not government strong suits.
 

Integrity

Binge Poster
Government is rarely thought of as innovative. Most people when asked about government think of red tape, bloat, bureaucracy and inefficiency. Innovation requires being nimble., able to change quickly and thinking outside the box. These are not government strong suits.
I believe I understand your perspective and you opinion about what most people think when asked this question.

Trying to ascertain your individual and personal opinion and perspective from this.

Based upon your post I understand your opinion to be that you do not believe government is innovative in good or bad ways.

Have I understood this correctly?
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
I believe I understand your perspective and you opinion about what most people think when asked this question.

Trying to ascertain your individual and personal opinion and perspective from this.

Based upon your post I understand your opinion to be that you do not believe government is innovative in good or bad ways.

Have I understood this correctly?
I believe by design from our founding fathers government is not innovative, nor able to change things quickly it takes a long time to get anything done in government quickly for a reason, because our founding fathers understood people with bad intentions, would use that to their advantage. It’s exactly why the branches of government were created to constantly check each side and slow the process down to give time for debate and perspective.
 

Integrity

Binge Poster
I believe by design from our founding fathers government is not innovative, nor able to change things quickly it takes a long time to get anything done in government quickly for a reason, because our founding fathers understood people with bad intentions, would use that to their advantage. It’s exactly why the branches of government were created to constantly check each side and slow the process down to give time for debate and perspective.
I understand your perspective here.

Having observed and experienced personal, governmental, corporate and institutional corruption/lack of integrity I think the ideals and concept of checks and balances is sound and in my mind and heart obviously needed.

I think the founders of this country however imperfect had an intuitive sense of the corruption that absolute power can cause in the hearts of men and society.

On this I am with you .

On the other hand I don’t believe that thorough checks and balances and innovative thinking and leading are mutually exclusive to one another.

I don’t think new thoughts and compromises necessarily have to be quick for it to be defined as innovative to the status quo.

IMO Sometimes the status qou is just bad for the human family in our country and around the planet.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
I understand your perspective here.

Having observed and experienced personal, governmental, corporate and institutional corruption/lack of integrity I think the ideals and concept of checks and balances is sound and in my mind and heart obviously needed.

I think the founders of this country however imperfect had an intuitive sense of the corruption that absolute power can cause in the hearts of men and society.

On this I am with you .

On the other hand I don’t believe that thorough checks and balances and innovative thinking and leading are mutually exclusive to one another.

I don’t think new thoughts and compromises necessarily have to be quick for it to be defined as innovative to the status quo.

IMO Sometimes the status qou is just bad for the human family in our country and around the planet.
Regardless of what we think about our country, it’s pretty clear we are admired for form of government all over the world, however, imperfect it may be.
People will literally die to get here.
 

Integrity

Binge Poster
Regardless of what we think about our country, it’s pretty clear we are admired for form of government all over the world, however, imperfect it may be.
People will literally die to get here.
No doubt about that.

Although I believe straying from the purpose and ideals of the country has happened, I do think the hope that the ideals of freedom and opportunity that the US represents to the world are still true and definitely are still attractive to the masses.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
I believe I understand your perspective and you opinion about what most people think when asked this question.

Trying to ascertain your individual and personal opinion and perspective from this.

Based upon your post I understand your opinion to be that you do not believe government is innovative in good or bad ways.

Have I understood this correctly?
Blah blah blah
Read the first four words of your post, then ask yourself why you felt the need to ramble on endlessly.
 

Integrity

Binge Poster
Blah blah blah
Read the first four words of your post, then ask yourself why you felt the need to ramble on endlessly.
All good my friend.

You are certainly free to feel, think, believe and have any opinion about me or anything for that matter.

I will continue to love you as a brother in the human family.

My value and sense of worth does not come from approval of my thoughts, opinions, and comments on the BC or any other place as well.

My value and sense of worth comes from my source, God almighty.

I firmly believe God, the Triune God is the source of all life, creation and all that goes with it.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Why is this funny to you?

In my experience government is innovative in good ways at times and in bad ways at other times.

Is it your opinion that Government is not innovative?
Take it in the context that Rickey meant. He wants to replace capitalism with government control. Says it's innovative also. Look around you. Look at the computer you're typing on. The car you drive. At best the government can support innovation with money. But the great leaps forward, the refinement, improvements in service, come from the profit incentive. The desire to make a good living, create wealth drives innovation. When you have a heavily centralized, government run economy such as the Soviet Union was that eliminates personal incentives in favor of doing everything for the collective things start falling apart. Shortages happen. Ricky deals in the realm of what might be, not the reality of what actually is. And forcing us all to suffer to chase after rainbows, as what is shaping up to happen with government mandates concerning energy, will ultimately destroy this country. A lot of wasted energy and misery to prove the capitalists are right.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
I understand your perspective here.

Having observed and experienced personal, governmental, corporate and institutional corruption/lack of integrity I think the ideals and concept of checks and balances is sound and in my mind and heart obviously needed.

I think the founders of this country however imperfect had an intuitive sense of the corruption that absolute power can cause in the hearts of men and society.

On this I am with you .

On the other hand I don’t believe that thorough checks and balances and innovative thinking and leading are mutually exclusive to one another.

I don’t think new thoughts and compromises necessarily have to be quick for it to be defined as innovative to the status quo.

IMO Sometimes the status qou is just bad for the human family in our country and around the planet.
But the federal level of government has condemned innovation as a threat to the status quo.

Take for example the federal attack on Texas for our innovative approach to defending our southern border (that has remained ignored by said federal government).

This is because the federal government mistakenly believes that the 'checks' of checks and balances means its citizens should be writing one repeatedly to the federal government.
 

Integrity

Binge Poster
Take it in the context that Rickey meant.
How are you privy to what Rickey meant?

Wouldn’t it advance discussion better for Ricky to say what he meant.
He wants to replace capitalism with government control. Says it's innovative also. Look around you. Look at the computer you're typing on. The car you drive. At best the government can support innovation with money. But the great leaps forward, the refinement, improvements in service, come from the profit incentive. The desire to make a good living, create wealth drives innovation. When you have a heavily centralized, government run economy such as the Soviet Union was that eliminates personal incentives in favor of doing everything for the collective things start falling apart. Shortages happen. Ricky deals in the realm of what might be, not the reality of what actually is. And forcing us all to suffer to chase after rainbows, as what is shaping up to happen with government mandates concerning energy, will ultimately destroy this country. A lot of wasted energy and misery to prove the capitalists are right.
 

Integrity

Binge Poster
Take it in the context that Rickey meant. He wants to replace capitalism with government control. Says it's innovative also. Look around you. Look at the computer you're typing on. The car you drive. At best the government can support innovation with money. But the great leaps forward, the refinement, improvements in service, come from the profit incentive. The desire to make a good living, create wealth drives innovation. When you have a heavily centralized, government run economy such as the Soviet Union was that eliminates personal incentives in favor of doing everything for the collective things start falling apart. Shortages happen. Ricky deals in the realm of what might be, not the reality of what actually is. And forcing us all to suffer to chase after rainbows, as what is shaping up to happen with government mandates concerning energy, will ultimately destroy this country. A lot of wasted energy and misery to prove the capitalists are right.
I think moderate thinking is best for all.
 

Integrity

Binge Poster
But the federal level of government has condemned innovation as a threat to the status quo.
Pleas explain.
Take for example the federal attack on Texas for our innovative approach to defending our southern border (that has remained ignored by said federal government).
I do not hold to think that immigration is an attack. A significant challenge yes, an attack hardly.
This is because the federal government mistakenly believes that the 'checks' of checks and balances means its citizens should be writing one repeatedly to the federal government.
True, all the while trying to find ways to allow the rich(themselves and their friends) to pay less.

Let’s give tax incentives to rich companies so they can hire a bunch of people to pay the taxes and further support rich corporations with politicians in their pockets, both lacking in integrity.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Pleas explain.

I do not hold to think that immigration is an attack. A significant challenge yes, an attack hardly.

True, all the while trying to find ways to allow the rich(themselves and their friends) to pay less.

Let’s give tax incentives to rich companies so they can hire a bunch of people to pay the taxes and further support rich corporations with politicians in their pockets, both lacking in integrity.
Read my post again, slowly if that helps.

I said the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT is attacking TEXAS.

Whether the invasion of illegal immigrants is an attack, or not, is subject to discussion and proximity.
 

Integrity

Binge Poster
How am I privy? I've been arguing with him for years. He has been denouncing capitalism in thousands of posts. Where have you been?
All good.

I still believe that stating what you believe someone meant is not the best discussion practice.

Please by all means do what you feel is right, I seek to control no one.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
I think moderate thinking is best for all.
And yet your moderate thinking has led to support of abortion, gay rights, a dismissal of the Bible as a necessary component of Christianity. You have stated here that, even though it has been clearly stated what kind of material is being put in school libraries, who are we to decide what is obscene and what isn't. While I consider pics of a teenage boy performing oral sex on another teenage boy extremely inappropriate, if not criminal, to be made available to kids even in elementary schools, which is happening, the Left is calling that book banning like the Nazis. Yet you are quick to say who are we to say what is obscene? I think you need to call up God and have a heart to heart. He might point you to some of those Biblical passages you reject.
 
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