That's a nice jump for newer employees
Cardb0ard.
Beer and more beer
Sucks for 3 year part timers.. including myself. But whatever I’ll suck it up.
Cardb0ard.
Beer and more beer
So I’ll still get the gwi just a year later.
mikejonesjr
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rod
Retired 23 years
rod
Retired 23 years
If I remember I'll post a picture Saturday of the sign.
rod
Retired 23 years
Goku
Member
Walmart was one of my first jobs. You don't get holidays, you don't pay raises. There is no seniority or protection (get hired a cashier? That's what you will be for life). 99% of the jobs there are customer service, and you certainly wont get health care or any help paying for schooling. Walmart is a dead end job, if you work for ups just a year you will already be making more than walmart starts at and it will just keep going up for you while other places stagnate. Speaking nothing of you having aspirations at UPS like going driver which is a better job than any job inside a Walmart already.
mikejonesjr
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Not to defend Walmart but there definitely are pay raises it's just less than UPS, also is seniority, and ability to move up. No initiation fees or dues either I'm sure. Obviously long term it would suck tho
Goku
Member
Seniority doesn't exist at walmart. Yes a 5 year employee might have more going for them than someone starting at walmart, but there is no "seniority rules" clause like there is at UPS. If you work at walmart for 5 years it doesn't guarantee you anything over someone who got hired yesterday, you will get no better treatment. You certainly can move up at walmart by applying within, but again it is corporate, there is no union at your side making sure you get seen for your length of service and treated fairly during this process. It would be misinformation to compare these two employment situations as equivalent. You have a lot of negotiating power at UPS even as a preload sorter working at the very bottom of the foodchain. At Walmart they can just fire you if they feel like it, and they do let go of people all the time for whatever reason. I've only heard of people getting fired at UPS for being extremely stupid, I'm pretty sure you can miss 6 months of work at UPS and show up on the 7th month and you'd be back to work after a write up to not do it again.
Jumpin Jack Flash
Troll
You will get the $13.00 it doesn’t matter if you voted or not. The union heads ratified the contract, even though the union members voted no. I’m in the same boat. I didn’t get a gwi, because the new contract is more than I made. So veterans are now making the same as someone starting day 1.
Jumpin Jack Flash
Troll
That the union couldn’t get $15.00 an hour for loaders, is a disgrace.
PT Car Washer
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With the show up bonus, UPS is already paying $15 to $20/hr. How many PT are going to stick around when the bonus is taken away?
Jumpin Jack Flash
Troll
The show up bonus in my area is for seasonal only employees. PTs don’t get any. UPS is always understaffed for PTs. $13.00 an hour an benefits at 3:30am isn’t worth it to many. Personally, I enjoy the job, but I see the politics from both UPS and the Teamsters. The big difference is I can understand my employer disappointing me, but a union that I pay dues to. That’s a whole new ball of wax. I’ve listened to the town halls from Teamsters and you can tell, they’ve never seen UPS operations. Touring a facility isn’t the same. Teamsters calls UPS a small package company. Sorry but back hoe tires, or college refrigerators aren’t small packages.
BiggieBrown
Well-Known Member
I've been looking around for a 2nd job and I'm surprised to see that most places are offering starting wages in the $12-$15 an hour range. I'm talking rinky dink ez jobs like grocery stores and fast food restaurants. Places that won't break your back. It kind of makes it feel like UPS gave us a raise not because we have a union who bargained for it but more because they simply had to. What do you guys honestly think UPS would be paying part-timers if we didn't have a union?
I'd bet it would still be this or p
I'd bet it would still be this or p
mikejonesjr
Well-Known Member
Freaking Target is paying $14 and aiming to hit $15 an hour by the end of the year. And UPS isn't starting people at 15 for another 2+ years? Cheap mfers. But to be fair when your paying drivers $40 an hour something's gotta give. I just got a second job as well. I've been at UPS almost 5 years, sadly you can guess which job pays more.
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