Amazon > UPS In Seven Years? *On Topic Please*

[Returntosender]

Fred S is exUPS?

A former supervisor told me Smith is ex ups management. At one point in the 90s Smith was poaching UPS managers. UPS managers had a non compete clause. The managers jumped ship and UPS did nothing to enforce the non compete clause.

Then I was told Atlanta made part time sups sign an agreement saying any invention they patent belongs to UPS if it's relegated to moving packages.

A few months ago Amazon poached a region level I.E. guy to help develop its delivery network. UPS air gateway, ground hub supervisors fresh out Louisville management training programs/schools are jumping ship to Amazon. To help develop the air/ground network.

 

[oldngray]

A former supervisor told me Smith is ex ups management. At one point in the 90s Smith was poaching UPS managers. UPS managers had a non compete clause. The managers jumped ship and UPS did nothing to enforce the non compete clause.

Then I was told Atlanta made part time sups sign an agreement saying any invention they patent belongs to UPS if it's relegated to moving packages.

A few months ago Amazon poached a region level I.E. guy to help develop its delivery network. UPS air gateway, ground hub supervisors fresh out Louisville management training programs/schools are jumping ship to Amazon. To help develop the air/ground network.

When RPS (now FedEx Ground) started up they poached a lot from UPS but I never heard of Smith working for UPS himself.

 

[Returntosender]

When RPS (now FedEx Ground) started up they poached a lot from UPS but I never heard of Smith working for UPS himself.

I just going by what a former manager told me before he retired. According to individual Smith went airline route instead the Rail to avoid the unions. Cause while at UPS Smith seen how union caused headaches.

Back in 90s when managers screwed up the manger got demoted to full time supervisor. The failure under the full time sups watch was let go. Now when management screws up the entire full time management team removed.

 

[FrigidFTSup]

I read somewhere that some teamster pilots that Amazon contracted with went on strike briefly in December. The pilots stopped striking but Amazon was concerned that they could do so again and said that they would use other options to move their air freight which includes other shipping companies. That is until they can resolve the problem(whatever the problem might be).

You can google to find the story but it might explain the large amounts of Amazon NDA you are seeing.

Funny part about that strike is that Amazon demanded work be taken away from that airline and placed with another airline that same company owned. Both represented by the same local.

And the pilots welcomed it. Solidarity at its finest!

 

[FrigidFTSup]

I just going by what a former manager told me before he retired. According to individual Smith went airline route instead the Rail to avoid the unions. Cause while at UPS Smith seen how union caused headaches.

Back in 90s when managers screwed up the manger got demoted to full time supervisor. The failure under the full time sups watch was let go. Now when management screws up the entire full time
management team removed.

Fred was never UPS. After Vietnam he went into aviation, its what led him to FedEx

 

[Returntosender]

Fred was never UPS. After Vietnam he went into aviation, its what led him to FedEx

Frederick W. Smith's Fedex Plantation


I was mistaken

 

[Turdferguson]

Fred was never UPS. After Vietnam he went into aviation, its what led him to FedEx

What are you on first name bases with him

 

[watdaflock?]

It's more marketing nonsense from Amazon, just like their Warehouse blimp.

 

[watdaflock?]

They seem cooler

To be fair, Amazon is pretty frickin' cool.

Anyone else Grand Tour fans? Prime is well worth it.

 

[Brownslave688]

To be fair, Amazon is pretty frickin' cool.

Anyone else Grand Tour fans? Prime is well worth it.

Big fan.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

Who cares if they deliver their own stuff?


Until they start delivering other Companies goods it's a non starter.

You misunderstood. They already deliver other companies goods. That's what Amazon is. What I'm saying is that they had always depended on carriers to get it all out. Now they are looking to move much of it (not all) on their own. So...the middle man (us) will handle much less of it.

 

[Brownslave688]

You misunderstood. They already deliver other companies goods. That's what Amazon is. What I'm saying is that they had always depended on carriers to get it all out. Now they are looking to move much of it (not all) on their own. So...the middle man (us) will handle much less of it.

No I didn't misunderstand.


Really the only thing losing Amazon means to ups is less union jobs.

 

[rod]

Big fan.

George and Conway--it hard to beat either.

 

[Rick Ross]

If you can't beat them, join them. UPS should start its own Amazon, might be too late now.

One of my old vendors used FedEx for their fulfillment services. My rep said their products were stocked next to the airport in Memphis and orders were picked by FedEx employees. Not sure if it's true but it seems like a good concept.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

One of my old vendors used FedEx for their fulfillment services. My rep said their products were stocked next to the airport in Memphis and orders were picked by FedEx employees. Not sure if it's true but it seems like a good concept.

Sounds like their version of our SCS.

 

[Rick Ross]

You misunderstood. They already deliver other companies goods. That's what Amazon is. What I'm saying is that they had always depended on carriers to get it all out. Now they are looking to move much of it (not all) on their own. So...the middle man (us) will handle much less of it.

That's what a fulfillment company does. At this time they aren't delivering for anyone but themselves or customers who pay them to stock and fill their orders directly from an Amazon warehouse.

 

[Rick Ross]

Sounds like their version of our SCS.

Guessing that's in Louisville?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Guessing that's in Louisville?

Among other places.

 

[Returntosender]

One of my old vendors used FedEx for their fulfillment services. My rep said their products were stocked next to the airport in Memphis and orders were picked by FedEx employees. Not sure if it's true but it seems like a good concept.

UPS does that at SDF mostly medical products though.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

Clearly you did.....

Who cares if they deliver their own stuff?

Until they start delivering other Companies goods it's a non starter.

When i said their own stuff it was obvious i meant the many products from many companies that they sell and we, along with other carriers, handle for them. That's what they are beginning to deliver themselves. As at their current growth they'll possibly pass both FedEx and UPS in parcel volume.

That's what a fulfillment company does. At this time they aren't delivering for anyone but themselves or customers who pay them to stock and fill their orders directly from an Amazon warehouse.

Exactly.......but most of it CURRENTLY is being fulfilled by outside carriers. If their current growth (and plans) continues then they'll be processing more than us. And that's my point.