You have freedom of speech on the outside of the walls of UPS not within the walls of UPS. They can not take action towards you for speaking out about UPS. If they could then those who walked the union line would have been let good. look up the case law about free speech on Findlaw.com
Any BC members ever get reprimanded for threads/posts?
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You have no constitutional right to "freedom of speech" on an internet forum. The Constitution simply states that CONGRESS must not abridge the freedom of speech. That right doesn't extend to internet forums or any other private property.
Case law is another thing... I've read all kinds of conflicting information about it. These links go to a couple of interesting articles. Take a minute and read them so you can draw your own conclusions. To me this issue is about as clear as mud.
http://www.ibls.com/internet_law_news_portal_view.aspx?s=latestnews&id=1629
Under the National Labor Relations Act ("NLRA"), an employee may not be disciplined for discussing wages, hours, or other terms and conditions of employment. Thus, an employee may not be fired for urging other employees to complain about a particular employment practice. A blog that encourages other employees to lodge complaints or that contains an employee forum discussing certain employment policies may, therefore, be protected. The NLRA, however, does not give an employee unlimited rights. For example, an employee may not act unreasonably, such as encouraging other employees to disseminate deliberately untrue statements.
http://www.millerlawgroup.com/publications/articles/Regulating%20Employee%20Internet%20Activity%20Off-Site.pdf
Blogging or other online comments about one’s employment may be protected under the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA) if the commentary or other online activity concerns terms and conditions of employment affecting the employee and co-workers. Note, too, that such activity is protected even if the employment is non-union.
The bottom line is that unless an employee’s online activities are illegal, or may be legal but are directly harmful to your business or a clear violation of company policy, taking adverse action against the employee poses a high degree of legal risk with minimal benefit to the employer. There’s also the consideration that adverse action will subject the employer to unwanted media scrutiny.
This info is provided for informational purposes only and should not be construed as legal advice. 
dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
I travel alot!And all the New England states as well !!
CRASH501
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Thumbster
... probably wise to stay anonymous just to be on the safe side, even if you don't post objectionable or confrontational stuff....
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OOPS TOO LATE , rumor has it a transcript of my posts are being emailed throughout corp. in an attempt to be used at my arbitration hearings.......lmao
... probably wise to stay anonymous just to be on the safe side, even if you don't post objectionable or confrontational stuff....
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OOPS TOO LATE , rumor has it a transcript of my posts are being emailed throughout corp. in an attempt to be used at my arbitration hearings.......lmao
tieguy
Banned
so you can devulge company secrets or make claims about the CEO's suspected perversions without consequence?
dannyboy
From the promised LAND
cheryl can correct me if i am wrong, but your access to this site is information that is protected by the privacy statement of this site.
so unless you post personal information that anyone can access by clicking on your profile, there is no way, unless she gets a legal request via subpoena for that information to find its way to your lp guy.
just because they work for lp does not give them special rights to anything. period.
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No one from UPS or anywhere else has ever asked me for any info or data or anything at all. We don't require or collect any personally identifiable information so I don't anticipate that this will ever happen. The only info we have about accounts are ip's and email addresses. Unless you have access to the resources of law enforcement that's not really enough information to figure out someone's identity. That is unless someone is posting from a UPS owned computer. In that case if someone from UPS had the ip then they could figure out where the computer is and probably figure out who was using it.
Legally this site is private property and the server is secured. The only ones with legal access to our database are me and the tech support staff at the hosting company that maintains our server. Should this situation ever arise I'd have to immediately get real legal advice, but I do believe that theoretically a subpoena would be necessary to force the release of anything.
It would be more likely that if someone could be identified it would be because of personally identifiable information displayed in their public profile or in their posts on the forum. It would be far easier to identify someone that way than by using the minuscule amount of info we keep on the admin side.
BTW, don't use our forum for illegal activities. If law enforcement ever asks me for the ip and email of someone that has used our forum for distributing kiddie porn, selling stolen goods or anything else that's illegal I'll be very cooperative with them...
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Is that why we have not heard from ovah lately?
I'll have to disagree with you there, Cheryl. UPS already has all our IPs from upsers.com. If they were able to get an IP from here, it would be pretty easy for them to compare, and know exactly who we are.
And that's a good thing!
Also, don't listen to Hoax. I very rarely use BC for anything illegal.
dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
It's only illegal if you get caught.
stevetheupsguy
sʇǝʌǝʇɥǝndsƃnʎ
I just posted a picture of his seat belt dangling from near his waist. Nothing else identifiable, but I was being watched so they "caught me".
LOL, this has been a Brown Cafe public service announcement.This info is provided for informational purposes only and should not be construed as legal advice.
Agreed!
I just got words thrown at me yet again today. Not for posting on here, but for running 20, yes 20 minutes overallowed. Someone is trying to make it look like they are useful, when in fact, they are not.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
Stug isnt a crapy employee, stug got in trouble for posting pictures of his supervisor on the Internet.
Ya know, I'm getting a little annoyed by all these vague suggestions that someone has access to our database information.
Maybe I'm naive... but unauthorized access of our private member data would be illegal.
The Electronic Frontier Foundation exists to take on lawsuits like that. If you've got proof then send it to me and let's get them involved. Please don't pretend that you're making statements of fact if you're just imagining things.
Maybe I'm naive... but unauthorized access of our private member data would be illegal.
The Electronic Frontier Foundation exists to take on lawsuits like that. If you've got proof then send it to me and let's get them involved. Please don't pretend that you're making statements of fact if you're just imagining things.
stevetheupsguy
sʇǝʌǝʇɥǝndsƃnʎ
I say you delete all of the screen names and start from Scratch (not the person) I mean zero. Can I be the new UpstateNYUPS'er?
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