Are guns trafficked in South America causing drug wars pushing illegals?

[DriveInDriveOut]

Notice how the cartels aren’t smuggling and selling alcohol in America?

We create the demand for the black drug market by making them illegal

Hurr durr no one would do drugs if they were legal.

So ridiculous.

 

[Mutineer]

It’s the same idea with censorship.

Censorship doesn’t work. It’s better to just win with the truth and better ideas

We tried banning alcohol in America. It led to a black market, people dying from tainted unregulated products, and crime rose.

It’s the same exact story now

Give people the education to decide what they want to do with their bodies. Give them resources to get help if they want it.

But let adults make their own decisions and do what they want with their own bodies and lives.

It is of interest and amusement to me that with all of our discoveries and advancements in everything, mankind still struggles with the same social and political problems that vexed ancient civilizations. Drugs, alcohol, mental illness, poverty, war, etc..

I know enough to know that what we are doing isn't working.

 

[catstalking]

Imagine how much worse the drug situation would be if we made no effort to stop the flow?

The flow doesn't matter, the sick society that consumes it does

Fighting capitalism is pretty much always a loser

 

[vantexan]

Where did I say anything about “letting drugs in”?

The reason drugs are “coming in” is because America has created a black market demand for them

The same way there is now a massive black market operation for cigarettes in Australia after taxing them so high to discourage use

Imagine if America stopped spending trillions of our tax dollars on telling adults what they can do with their own body.

Imagine if we stopped spending $50,000 PER PERSON to lock someone up in prison over what they do with their own body

Imagine if in addition to stopping the trillions of our tax money on that, we also regulated and taxed the drugs the way we do with the other drugs in our country, like alcohol.

self governance. You don’t need the government to hold your hand and protect you. We’ll be alright

Is everything about you? And then you proceed to defend legalizing drugs. And it hasn't been trillions.

 

[vantexan]

The flow doesn't matter, the sick society that consumes it does

Fighting capitalism is pretty much always a loser

I don't recall people dying from any drug at the rate they're dying from fentanyl. Plenty have died from the cumulative effects of drug addiction but fentanyl is often an instant death. We should be doing everything possible to keep it off the streets.

 

[Doublestandards]

Is everything about you? And then you proceed to defend legalizing drugs. And it hasn't been trillions.

Trillion*

The federal government spent $39 billion last year alone on the war on drugs

Our prisons are overflowing and 70% of the prisoners are non violent offenders

Let adults do what they want with their bodies. Stop spending tax money locking people up for drug use.

 

[Doublestandards]

I don't recall people dying from any drug at the rate they're dying from fentanyl. Plenty have died from the cumulative effects of drug addiction but fentanyl is often an instant death. We should be doing everything possible to keep it off the streets.

Most the people dying from fentanyl don’t even know they’re doing fentanyl, because their drugs are laced, because the drugs are unregulated and sold by criminals in the black market

The same thing happened when America made alcohol illegal

If you legalized and regulated drugs for adults, fentanyl deaths would plummet

 

[vantexan]

Trillion*

The federal government spent $39 billion on it alone last year

Our prisons are overflowing and 70% of the prisoners are non violent offenders

Let adults do what they want with their bodies. Stop spending tax money locking people up for drug use.

That's B.S. The prisons aren't full of drug users. They're full of smugglers and dealers. Guess you don't want them imprisoned either?

 

[vantexan]

Most the people dying from fentanyl don’t even know they’re doing fentanyl, because their drugs are laced, because the drugs are unregulated and sold by criminals in the black market

The same thing happened when America made alcohol illegal

If you legalized and regulated drugs for adults, fentanyl deaths would plummet

Baloney, the drug is too dangerous for the average user to safely use.

 

[Doublestandards]

“Every 31 seconds, someone is arrested for a drug offense. Over 85% of drug arrests are for possession alone.”

https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/home

All that tax money and clogging up the courts and our resources

 

[Doublestandards]

Baloney, the drug is too dangerous for the average user to safely use.

I don’t think you read what I said

The majority of people dying from fentanyl is from other drugs being tainted with it. They are not purposely ingesting fentanyly

If drugs were regulated, like we do with alcohol, this would not be as much of a problem as it is now

 

[rod]

Finish that wall Donald.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Trillion*

The federal government spent $39 billion last year alone on the war on drugs

Our prisons are overflowing and 70% of the prisoners are non violent offenders

Let adults do what they want with their bodies. Stop spending tax money locking people up for drug use.

Lie.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I don’t think you read what I said

The majority of people dying from fentanyl is from other drugs being tainted with it. They are not purposely ingesting fentanyly

If drugs were regulated, like we do with alcohol, this would not be as much of a problem as it is now

Lie.

 

[Mutineer]

I don't recall people dying from any drug at the rate they're dying from fentanyl.

Me either. I dare to say that fentanyl is responsible for removing drug addicts from society. Looks alot like winning to me.

And then the gawdamm SOB's came out with Narcan.

Here in California, there are emergency Narcan dispensers all over public housing.

 

[Mutineer]

If you legalized and regulated drugs for adults, fentanyl deaths would plummet

I've known a few people who's deaths were caused by fentanyl.

Once upon a time, they were my friends. I look back on all the years of loss, misery, suffering, and troubles those people inflicted upon everybody who had the misfortune to be in their orbit, and those who cared about them.

I came to the sad conclusion that fentanyl was the best thing that ever happened to them.

 

[vantexan]

I don’t think you read what I said

The majority of people dying from fentanyl is from other drugs being tainted with it. They are not purposely ingesting fentanyly

If drugs were regulated, like we do with alcohol, this would not be as much of a problem as it is now

And you'd be wrong. There is certainly a huge problem with other drugs laced with it but people are buying it directly and mishandling it too.

 

[Doublestandards]

Lie.

You don’t care about facts, you’ve made that clear, and you love the government spending tax money to babysit adults and not teach self governance.

But for everyone else

“the annual US federal drug war budget reached $39 billion, with cumulative spending since 1971 estimated at $1 trillion”

“Despite a low in teen drug use, overdose deaths in adolescents are on the rise, according to a new study. Experts say counterfeit prescription pills are in part to blame, and that neither families nor the teens taking them know the risks the pills pose.”

News: Teen overdose deaths are rapidly... (CNN News) - Behind the headlines - NLM

(CNN News) Teen overdose deaths are rapidly rising -- but not because more of them are using drugs | CNN. Associated research findings from the National Library of Medicine.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Costs in the war on drugs continue to soar

The numbers keep going up, from prosecutions to lives lost to government spending.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[vantexan]

“Every 31 seconds, someone is arrested for a drug offense. Over 85% of drug arrests are for possession alone.”

https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/home

All that tax money and clogging up the courts and our resources

Being arrested and the prisons being 70% full of drug users are two very different things. The vast majority of prisoners happen to also be drug users but that's not the reason most are in prison.

 

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The new & y Mexican President needs to STFU ASAP !!