Are PVD Drivers Scabs?

[Just A UPS Guy]

I will say that I'm not mad at the people taking a job during the holidays, as I would be someone crossing, but I do zero to help them out. I don't hate them, individually, but the position as a whole.

 

[UPSER1987]

I do not like the PVD situation one bit. Not only has it taken away from full time positions being created. A lot of our part timers will not be jumping this year because of it. These kids look forward to banking money during peak and it just isn't right.

The same kids that don’t sure up for their pt shift, give ty effort and the same pt’ers drivers complain about every year? …riiiight.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Alright. I'm going to take this chance and put you in your place. You need it.

I'll bet this is gonna hurt.

My shift is full of small business owners and tradesmen (plumbers, electricians, landscapers, etc.) who need the benefits, because paying out of pocket is ridiculous. And it gives them the flexibility to run a business without the 5 days a week of 10pm returns to the building all year long.

These are grown men making grown decisions, making a living equal to the drivers, and simply choose to do it differently.

Thats a handful of people.

I ran a roofing business when I was part-time.

Your unjustified contempt for part-timers is embarrassing, and you should be embarrassed. It's anti-union, and just plain dumb.

Thats funny coming from you.

The majority of posts you make are anti-union.

 

[wilberforce15]

I'll bet this is gonna hurt.




Thats a handful of people.

I ran a roofing business when I was part-time.




Thats funny coming from you.

The majority of posts you make are anti-union.

So you sucked at running the business?

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I agree they are just trying to feed their family like everyone else. It is just one more concession allowed by the Union because the members don't care enough to get involved. I blame the members of the Teamster Union.

I'll never disagree with someone.... when they are right.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

So you sucked at running the business?

Nope.

Made a lot of money.... legally.


The only way (most) make money, is work "under the table".

Ask your co-workers (the plumbers, electricians, etc) if they are licensed, bonded, and insured.

Better yet (if they are business owners) if they pay in to the states workers comp program.

 

[wilberforce15]

Nope.

Made a lot of money.... legally.


The only way (most) make money, is work "under the table".

Ask your co-workers (the plumbers, electricians, etc) if they are licensed, bonded, and insured.

Better yet (if they are business owners) if they pay in to the states workers comp program.

Sounds like you're just jealous of successful people who didn't fall into the full time trap.

Don't hate.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Sounds like you're just jealous of successful people who didn't fall into the full time trap.

Don't hate.

Your posts only confirm.... what I already know.

Thanks.

 

[wilberforce15]

Your posts only confirm.... what I already know.

Thanks.

That you should have stuck to roofing?

Here's the thing. Your disrespect of an entire class of people started it.

All you had to do, small union guy, is appreciate that all kinds people at ups might be worthy of representation or respect.

 

[RetiredIE]

I was stunned when the union let PVD's in in the first place. They are never going away. The decision UPS has to make is:

1) Do I use relatively expensive union labor?
- or-
2) Do I use dirt cheap slave labor?

This is UPS after all....the barn door is open and it won't be easy, or even possible, to close.

 

[UnionStrong]

I was stunned when the union let PVD's in in the first place. They are never going away. The decision UPS has to make is:

1) Do I use relatively expensive union labor?
- or-
2) Do I use dirt cheap slave labor?

This is UPS after all....the barn door is open and it won't be easy, or even possible, to close.

Not without some other stupid concessions by the union.

 

[quad decade guy]

In 1997 the only ones that crossed the picket line were delivery drivers. All of the PT honored the strike, even pre seniority.

Not here. Several feeder drivers....most still here.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Not here. Several feeder drivers....most still here.

No Feeder drivers and no PT Union members crossed at my building. Hundreds of Union members except for some delivery drivers that couldn't afford to miss a paycheck.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Its funny....

How some people still want to relive 1997.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Its funny....

How some people still want to relive 1997.

Lots of beer drinking that year

 

[UnionStrong]

Lots of beer drinking that year

What’s changed?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

What’s changed?

I can afford better beer now

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Lots of beer drinking that year

We had so much fun.... UPS got an injunction limiting the number of picketers.

It was like a college keg party.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

We had so much fun.... UPS got an injunction limiting the number of picketers.

It was like a college keg party.

It was fun and scary at the same time.

 

[UnionStrong]

We had so much fun.... UPS got an injunction limiting the number of picketers.

It was like a college keg party.

I was drinking like a fish. My house was under construction and I was suddenly out of work for who knew how long.