542thruNthru
Well-Known Member
You must be retaining water.
That would mean he gained weight.
You must be retaining water.
Don't want to get too specific. I'm in the South.Where the hell are you? Who supports him?
Of course I'm pro-union, but I hate the factious nature of politics in the union. At the end of the day, I honestly believe everyone has their own agenda, so it's hard to say that I really support any person in particular. I support the union's cause as a whole (to gain better benefits, working conditions, and pay for the membership), rather than particular people, because people and their motivations are what corrupt the union as a whole.I’m a huge anti TDU advocate. However, you basically said to everyone. First you need to make a choice. Union or no union. If you care about the membership then I suspect you choose union. That being said, eventually you will have to support a cause or in my case, I support a person. I’ve supported Hoffa since 98. But over the last couple of years including stuff that financially affected me and my friend that I’d rather not get into and especially the issue with Sean being thrown off as chief negotiator, I did change my mind of who I support. And if I’m labeled as TDU for my support of Sean, then I can honestly label the person labeling me a .
* It amazes me.... how all of the sudden.... there are all these "contract experts" *
Because hoffa is done and he doesnt care. Taylor probably received a new vacation home.I don't think you need to be a plumber to know what a turd looks like...
This is a tentative agreement which means our bargaining unit agreed to these terms as is but let's the locals go deeper into the contract if they deem it necessary, correct? Why even chance some of this dangerous language making it through?
You do realize it's a tentative agreement, not ratified by the membership yet ?
And the supplements, plus Local Riders aren't finished.
When the final offer is presented and explained;
Then is the time for consideration.
Not before.
-Bug-
* It amazes me.... how all of the sudden.... there are all these "contract experts" *
And that is fair. And I respect your honestyYou're not TDU.
Sean.... is not TDU.
Fred.... is not TDU.
He is a politician that was denied consideration to replace Walt L on the executive board.
Now, he has an axe to grind for his "perceived" sense of disrespect.
-Bug-
Wait a minute. The tentative agreement was put out for us for right now for “consideration “ what the hell else are we supposed to go off of. This garbage was presented to us with a bow tied to it. Now you tell us to Forgetaboutit. Wtf.You do realize it's a tentative agreement, not ratified by the membership yet ?
And the supplements, plus Local Riders aren't finished.
When the final offer is presented and explained;
Then is the time for consideration.
Not before.
-Bug-
* It amazes me.... how all of the sudden.... there are all these "contract experts" *
The tentative agreement was put out for us for right now for “consideration “ what the hell else are we supposed to go off of.
What else is @Big Arrow Down...D suppose to go off of ? If not the tentative agreement touted best ever?Why is everyone jumping the gun ?
You do realize it's a tentative agreement, not ratified by the membership yet ?
And the supplements, plus Local Riders aren't finished.
When the final offer is presented and explained;
Then is the time for consideration.
Not before.
-Bug-
* It amazes me.... how all of the sudden.... there are all these "contract experts" *
Honestly BUG I didn't see anything good either.Why is everyone jumping the gun ?
I don't think you need to be a plumber to know what a turd looks like...
This is a tentative agreement which means our bargaining unit agreed to these terms as is but let's the locals go deeper into the contract if they deem it necessary, correct? Why even chance some of this dangerous language making it through?
Perhaps it has to do with it being 100 degrees outside, going out with truck stuffed to ceiling front to back with couches , grills , 149 lb boxes , and expecting true improvements and seeing this garbage . Nothing against you personally brother. I respect you .You are a very knowledgeable and great asset to this forum. I apologize if it comes off disrespectful. Not my intention.Why is everyone jumping the gun ?
Hold on im on the way there.Don't want to get too specific. I'm in the South.
For the President of our union to agree with this nonsense means he hasn’t any respect for what we do and go thru each and everyday, this is why only UPS rank and file should be allowed to run for office.What else is @Big Arrow Down...D suppose to go off of ? If not the tentative agreement touted best ever?
I don't like some parts and even hate some too, but I'm waiting for my Supplement to get done so I can see the whole thing. The Supplement may fill some of the holes left in the Master so I will wait. I don't expect that it will fill all the holes so I will look at the whole package when it comes in. Right now I'm leaning no.
You do realize it's a tentative agreement, not ratified by the membership yet ?
And the supplements, plus Local Riders aren't finished.
When the final offer is presented and explained;
Then is the time for consideration.
Not before.
-Bug-
* It amazes me.... how all of the sudden.... there are all these "contract experts" *
To be fair, the teamsters cover more than just Ups employees. But I get what you're saying and I agree with the idea of it. We should have at least had some rank and file help with negotiations and not had some piece of garbage who worked for Ups 25 years ago lead up the negotiations.For the President of our union to agree with this nonsense means he hasn’t any respect for what we do and go thru each and everyday, this is why only UPS rank and file should be allowed to run for office.