"BROTHERHOOD" in International Brotherhood of Teamsters has been Broken-RIP 2013

[teamcaresux]

It's been debated ad nauseum !!!

All points from both sides from all positions have been made. Let the democratic process do it's thing !!

BTW, You might pay a dollar more for that Ritalin refill, so get that filled by August 1st !!

People like you and Hoffa ARE the problem.

 

[Mugarolla]

Instead of bringing us down to your "level", why did you not fight to bring you "up" to our level?

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[Big Bad Wolf]

Instead of bringing us down to your "level", why did you not fight to bring you "up" to our level?

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These folks might take any level.


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[Foamer Pyle]

Teamcare has been great for myself, and my family. Great coverage, and it doesn't cost us a penny.


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[HEFFERNAN]

People like you and Hoffa ARE the problem.

Why don't you quit your job and then look at your pay, benefits, pension, and healthcare from the outside looking in.

Better than 99% of the people you see everyday

 

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Must be part timers lining up for food stamps?

 

[Big Bad Wolf]

Must be part timers lining up for food stamps?

California unemployment.


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[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Must be part timers lining up for food stamps?

California unemployment.

They are waiting for their Obama phones.

 

[oldngray]

Must be part timers lining up for food stamps?

Before they started using the cards there was a food stamp place on my route and the first couple of days of the month people would be lined up outside for a couple of blocks.

 

[Bubblehead]

They are waiting for their Obama phones.

George W Bush's administration started that program. but like so many other problematic programs, was inherited by Obama.

 

[Bubblehead]

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I seriously doubt it.
Take a hard, close look at that picture.
This is a culture that has been created in this country, that perpetuates itself generation after generation.

 

[oldngray]

George W Bush's administration started that program. but like so many other problematic programs, was inherited by Obama.

It really started in 1980's under Reagan but was expanded under Bush but the big increase was under Obama, so Obamaphone is a valid name. And like other programs Obama inherited, he greatly increased their scope and impact.

 

[Bubblehead]

Why don't you quit your job and then look at your pay, benefits, pension, and healthcare from the outside looking in.

Better than 99% of the people you see everyday

This mindset is soooooo tired.
Why should we be expected to give concessions to a company that is doing better than 99% of the other Fortune 500 companies?
We should be setting the bar higher, or at the very least, maintaining it at its present level.
We work hard for the good money we spend on union dues and deserve better representation.

 

[Bubblehead]

It really started in 1980's under Reagan but was expanded under Bush but the big increase was under Obama, so Obamaphone is a valid name. And like other programs Obama inherited, he greatly increased their scope and impact.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan to date of Obama.
I just realize nothing starts or stops at his desk, like so many people think.

 

[HEFFERNAN]

This mindset is soooooo tired.
Why should we be expected to give concessions to a company that is doing better than 99% of the other Fortune 500 companies?
We should be setting the bar higher, or at the very least, maintaining it at its present level.
We work hard for the good money we spend on union dues and deserve better representation.

Because the price of healthcare has increased faster than inflation and UPS profits. This isn't a company problem or union problem, IT'S A NATIONAL PROBLEM. Trust me, no company can afford "free healthcare" especially the kind we have to their employees any longer, including UPS.

 

[Bubblehead]

Because the price of healthcare has increased faster than inflation and UPS profits. This isn't a company problem or union problem, IT'S A NATIONAL PROBLEM. Trust me, no company can afford "free healthcare" especially the kind we have to their employees any longer, including UPS.

So they have continued to provide it to date, while recording consistent record profits, but somehow can do it no longer?

 

[Johney]

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Stand in line in the a/c and get $$$ or push packages for $9 an hour in the heat for 4 hours a day? Most likely getting more to stand in line? I wouldn't be so sure of your theory.

 

[realbrown1]

In the 80's, I got out of the Army on Aug 22. I had a job with in a week doing security at a precious metals company a few miles from my house. On Sept 15th, I started at UPS. Worked 2 jobs all for 5 years until I went driving.

Are these people in line because they can't find work, or because they don't want to work, or because they make more money not working?

And stop with this attitude, if not for UPS, this is where we would be.

 

[Big Bad Wolf]

Stand in line in the a/c and get $$$ or push packages for $9 an hour in the heat for 4 hours a day? Most likely getting more to stand in line? I wouldn't be so sure of your theory.

Unemployment will eventually run out for them.


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