BrownFlush mom

[El Correcto]

I think there’s a pretty big difference between the two sexes. For example Especially at a job like package delivery. In my experience, women who try to do package cars are hurt far more often and rarely make it to retirement. Their Bodies are just not made for this kind of abuse. it’s difficult for males as well but I believe we are built a little different.

Weird I know multiple old ladies that have retired. Know multiple women that do the job and have less injuries than men.

I think the methods make the job pretty easy to do physically.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Weird I know multiple old ladies that have retired. Know multiple women that do the job and have less injuries than men.

I think the methods make the job pretty easy to do physically.

I’m in the building with almost 330 drivers for over 30 years I only know two women who have made it to retirement in package car. Most went to Feeders. Took an inside job or got injured and never returned. To be fair, there’s a lot less women drivers, and the rate of injury for men is high as well.. methods do help but repetitive stress injury is a real thing. There’s really nothing easy about a 30+ year career at UPS. It’s a grind.

 

[BrownFlush]

I've known two bull dikes that made it to 25.
Both took the early out. They were scary.

 

[UnionStrong]

I've known two bull dikes that made it to 25.
Both took the early out. They were scary.

I knew one, not a lesbo. She finished on car wash. Solid worker.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

The Democrats went insane and there was nowhere else to go to effectively resist it.

Trump will probably do plenty of things I’ll be pretty butthurt about over the next 4 years. But it won’t be worse than the racist, reality-denying, anti-American garbage that leftists are into and Kamala was ready to keep feeding.

Least worst option, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, etc.

The best we can hope for is an improvement on the labor side of things over his last administration, and Sean may have helped that.

 

[bottomups]

Harder for women since the weight limit increased. Though if there are any guys around they can usually just use that weakness to get help.

Teamster assistance. Use the labor agreement.

 

[El Correcto]

I’m in the building with almost 330 drivers for over 30 years I only know two women who have made it to retirement in package car. Most went to Feeders. Took an inside job or got injured and never returned. To be fair, there’s a lot less women drivers, and the rate of injury for men is high as well.. methods do help but repetitive stress injury is a real thing. There’s really nothing easy about a 30+ year career at UPS. It’s a grind.

I think the toxic culture, work life balance and management are the biggest driving forces that make people quit. The labor itself is easy and there is like three 80-100lb women I work with have been doing the same job as me for 5-8 years now.


It’s absolutely ridiculous to say women struggle more or can’t do this job same as a man. The job is easy and not very physically demanding, a lot of people are just in terrible shape so it makes our mediocre physical labor look hard in comparison.

 

[vantexan]

I think the toxic culture, work life balance and management are the biggest driving forces that make people quit. The labor itself is easy and there is like three 80-100lb women I work with have been doing the same job as me for 5-8 years now.


It’s absolutely ridiculous to say women struggle more or can’t do this job same as a man. The job is easy and not very physically demanding, a lot of people are just in terrible shape so it makes our mediocre physical labor look hard in comparison.

Back before there was a FedEx Ground we FedEx couriers drove big step vans full of freight plus ran the sort in the morning.and in many stations worked the reload at night. A busy day of constant movement. We hired.plenty of women but few ran the heavier routes. We had too many women with back injuries so management would put women in lighter routes and assign them to sorting documents on the sort. Just the way it was.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I think the toxic culture, work life balance and management are the biggest driving forces that make people quit. The labor itself is easy and there is like three 80-100lb women I work with have been doing the same job as me for 5-8 years now.


It’s absolutely ridiculous to say women struggle more or can’t do this job same as a man. The job is easy and not very physically demanding, a lot of people are just in terrible shape so it makes our mediocre physical labor look hard in comparison.

I agree we have a toxic culture, I’ve always said we make about $10-$15 an hour to do the job. Everything else is to put up with management BS.

But it is not ridiculous to say women do struggle “long-term” physically doing this job. The job is a meat grinder. And I’m glad you pointed out the 5 to 8 years because that is about the point most women begin to have problems with their bodies at this repetitive motion job. We currently have five women in our center. Three of them are out on injury and have been out five months or more. One of them came back from pregnancy. The other one has only been driving about a year and a half. This is not a knock on women. Their bodies are just different.

We are in a metro area with a lot of heavy business routes and stops that go out with 200+ stops a day. As well as very heavy pick ups. In Smaller centers where there’s more driving and less volume, it might be a little easier on the bodies.

 

[BrownFlush]

Back before there was a FedEx Ground we FedEx couriers drove big step vans full of freight plus ran the sort in the morning.and in many stations worked the reload at night. A busy day of constant movement. We hired.plenty of women but few ran the heavier routes. We had too many women with back injuries so management would put women in lighter routes and assign them to sorting documents on the sort. Just the way it was.

Racism.

 

[El Correcto]

I agree we have a toxic culture, I’ve always said we make about $10-$15 an hour to do the job. Everything else is to put up with management BS.

But it is not ridiculous to say women do struggle “long-term” physically doing this job. The job is a meat grinder. And I’m glad you pointed out the 5 to 8 years because that is about the point most women begin to have problems with their bodies at this repetitive motion job. We currently have five women in our center. Three of them are out on injury and have been out five months or more. One of them came back from pregnancy. The other one has only been driving about a year and a half. This is not a knock on women. Their bodies are just different.

We are in a metro area with a lot of heavy business routes and stops that go out with 200+ stops a day. As well as very heavy pick ups. In Smaller centers where there’s more driving and less volume, it might be a little easier on the bodies.

If a fit woman wants to do the job she could.
It is not so physically demanding a woman couldn’t do it.

We are not discussing a strong man competition here. This job is just not physically hard if you’re out there doing it properly. It absolutely is a knock on women to suggest they can’t do a delivery driver job long time and retire.

Not all men could do this job, too fat, out of shape, etc, not all women could do this job. If you can reach average or slightly below average physical fitness you can meet the physical demands of this job.

 

[Thebrownblob]

If a fit woman wants to do the job she could.
It is not so physically demanding a woman couldn’t do it.

We are not discussing a strong man competition here. This job is just not physically hard if you’re out there doing it properly. It absolutely is a knock on women to suggest they can’t do a delivery driver job long time and retire.

Not all men could do this job, too fat, out of shape, etc, not all women could do this job. If you can reach average or slightly below average physical fitness you can meet the physical demands of this job.

Never said we were discussing a strong man competition lol. I’m definitely not a bodybuilder.. I’m definitely not fit and I’ve never been injured Just a little bit of luck, And figuring out the methods are your friend. We’re talking about long-term. This is a very difficult job for the female body. It’s not about strength it’s about wear and tear.

Supervisors and managers always come out and tell you how well they could do the job and I say, yes sure you could for a few days… get back to me in 30 years.

 

[vantexan]

If a fit woman wants to do the job she could.
It is not so physically demanding a woman couldn’t do it.

We are not discussing a strong man competition here. This job is just not physically hard if you’re out there doing it properly. It absolutely is a knock on women to suggest they can’t do a delivery driver job long time and retire.

Not all men could do this job, too fat, out of shape, etc, not all women could do this job. If you can reach average or slightly below average physical fitness you can meet the physical demands of this job.

What's the weight limit on UPS packages? It's 150lbs at FedEx. I've done a number of warehouse routes where I routinely unloaded, and loaded, 100lb+ packages. Used to pickup leaf springs on pallets at one place, printing press rollers in wooden crates at another. Used to get a regular DuPont labs pickup in the Rio Grand Valley of about 1100 lbs of soil samples in ten boxes going to Canada. We wouldn't put women on such routes and yet we constantly had women out on injury.

 

[Thebrownblob]

What's the weight limit on UPS packages? It's 150lbs at FedEx. I've done a number of warehouse routes where I routinely unloaded, and loaded, 100lb+ packages. Used to pickup leaf springs on pallets at one place, printing press rollers in wooden crates at another. Used to get a regular DuPont labs pickup in the Rio Grand Valley of about 1100 lbs of soil samples in ten boxes going to Canada. We wouldn't put women on such routes and yet we constantly had women out on injury.

It’s common sense, and the vast majority of women have no desire to even do this job. Understandably.

 

[El Correcto]

It’s common sense, and the vast majority of women have no desire to even do this job. Understandably.

Common sense is for stupid people with no nuance.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Common sense is for stupid people with no nuance.

So this should make sense to you. It’s really not an argument. You can piss and moan all you want, but these are just facts. You have zero credibility here anyway.. you don’t even know what a woman is. Certainly one would never have you.

 

[vantexan]

It’s common sense, and the vast majority of women have no desire to even do this job. Understandably.

True, many hired on and many quickly quit. I suspect this is El Correcto getting a dig in at straight drivers. I've only worked one Christmas at UPS as a helper. A motorhome sized step van stuffed with boxes isn't.minimalist work. May be easier the rest of the year but there's no way y'all don't earn every penny.

 

[El Correcto]

What's the weight limit on UPS packages? It's 150lbs at FedEx. I've done a number of warehouse routes where I routinely unloaded, and loaded, 100lb+ packages. Used to pickup leaf springs on pallets at one place, printing press rollers in wooden crates at another. Used to get a regular DuPont labs pickup in the Rio Grand Valley of about 1100 lbs of soil samples in ten boxes going to Canada. We wouldn't put women on such routes and yet we constantly had women out on injury.

Here is a woman setting an 800 lb bike upright. If you’re straight lifting heavy packages and not using proper methods to get them on a 2 wheeler or calling for assistance, you’re doing the job wrong.

I never straight up lift more than 70lbs by myself, it is getting slid on a 2 wheeler or team lifted.

 

[El Correcto]

True, many hired on and many quickly quit. I suspect this is El Correcto getting a dig in at straight drivers. I've only worked one Christmas at UPS as a helper. A motorhome sized step van stuffed with boxes isn't.minimalist work. May be easier the rest of the year but there's no way y'all don't earn every penny.

It doesn’t matter how many they put in my package car. I’m gonna work my 14 hours and scan the rest missed, while working in Orion order.

Who gives a if they screw themselves over by overfilling your truck?

 

[El Correcto]

So this should make sense to you. It’s really not an argument. You can piss and moan all you want, but these are just facts. You have zero credibility here anyway.. you don’t even know what a woman is. Certainly one would never have you.

No it’s not facts, it’s just you declaring something common sense and talking down to me because I disagree that women can’t do the job(ridiculous take).