Building closures...

[KearsargeCoop]

I'm willing to bet we see alot of questions in regards to building closures over the next few months...

I'll start - Buildings routes are being dispersed to three different centers. Bid route is being sent to center that driver doesn't want to follow their work to. 26 year driver in this specific example.
What are their options? The vagueness in the contract reads like the CO could tell him to pound sand if he elects to not follow work.

Central region.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I'm willing to bet we see alot of questions in regards to building closures over the next few months...

I'll start - Buildings routes are being dispersed to three different centers. Bid route is being sent to center that driver doesn't want to follow their work to. 26 year driver in this specific example.
What are their options? The vagueness in the contract reads like the CO could tell him to pound sand if he elects to not follow work.

Central region.

They don’t have to follow their work, but they would become an unassigned cover driver in the building. They chose to go to here. I believe most will follow their work. Unless of course they’re close to retirement, which might push them over the edge.

 

[KearsargeCoop]

They don’t have to follow their work, but they would become an unassigned cover driver in the building. They chose to go to here. I believe most will follow their work. Unless of course they’re close to retirement, which might push them over the edge.

Our center manager is going to ask who wants to follow work, then ask by seniority where they want to go. Seemed fair to me.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Our center manager is going to ask who wants to follow work, then ask by seniority where they want to go. Seemed fair to me.

No matter how you slice it this is a pain in the ass.
Makes work life, balance, and family life even harder.

 

[10:30 resi]

They don’t have to follow their work, but they would become an unassigned cover driver in the building. They chose to go to here. I believe most will follow their work. Unless of course they’re close to retirement, which might push them over the edge.

Depends how the company and local decide they are going to handle it at the change of operations meeting, no?

 

[Thebrownblob]

UPS will eliminate 244 union jobs when Portland site closes for automation

Oregon's unemployment rate is at its highest point since 2021.

www.oregonlive.com

 

[Thebrownblob]

Depends how the company and local decide they are going to handle it at the change of operations meeting, no?

Correct and your supplement will have a process laid out. This is just how it works here. And remember many times this involves people moving to different locals and dovetailing.

 

[Wally]

I'm willing to bet we see alot of questions in regards to building closures over the next few months...

I'll start - Buildings routes are being dispersed to three different centers. Bid route is being sent to center that driver doesn't want to follow their work to. 26 year driver in this specific example.
What are their options? The vagueness in the contract reads like the CO could tell him to pound sand if he elects to not follow work.

Central region.

The 26 year in-driver has to decide what is more important. Not following the work means you will be doing split routes like a newbie. If one is more concerned about family and/or being closer to home, they may opt to give up their routes.

Most locals have specific rules dealing with these issues.

 

[KearsargeCoop]

The 26 year in-driver has to decide what is more important. Not following the work means you will be doing split routes like a newbie. If one is more concerned about family and/or being closer to home, they may opt to give up their routes.

Most locals have specific rules dealing with these issues.

From what I've heard from the centers steward the union has been less than informative.

 

[Thebrownblob]

From what I've heard from the centers steward the union has been less than informative.

Well, if it’s anything like it is currently here we know very little. Still don’t know much info, which is ridiculous but also typical of UPS and last minute plants.

 

[KearsargeCoop]

Well, if it’s anything like it is currently here we know very little. Still don’t know much info, which is ridiculous but also typical of UPS and last minute plants.

Understandable.

 

[I have NOT been lurking]

I'm willing to bet we see alot of questions in regards to building closures over the next few months...

I'll start - Buildings routes are being dispersed to three different centers. Bid route is being sent to center that driver doesn't want to follow their work to. 26 year driver in this specific example.
What are their options? The vagueness in the contract reads like the CO could tell him to pound sand if he elects to not follow work.

Central region.

Local 705/710 are not central

 

[DriverNerd]

Well, if it’s anything like it is currently here we know very little. Still don’t know much info, which is ridiculous but also typical of UPS and last minute plants.

Why wife is a steward and is always swarmed by people wanting to know about layoffs and dates, etc. She always tells them she will share any information she learns as soon as she knows, but UPS doesn't disclose any information until they absolutely have to.

 

[Wally]

From what I've heard from the centers steward the union has been less than informative.

These things do not happen often. This needs special attention from the local. I'm surprised they didn't already call a special meeting?

 

[Thebrownblob]

These things do not happen often. This needs special attention from the local. I'm surprised they didn't already call a special meeting?

Meetings can only get called when there’s actually information to tell. UPS is not really being super fast about giving this information.

 

[oldngray]

Meetings can only get called when there’s actually information to tell. UPS is not really being super fast about giving this information.

UPS never gave out more information when didn't have to. Even over trivial matters.

 

[Wally]

Meetings can only get called when there’s actually information to tell. UPS is not really being super fast about giving this information.

I was talking about info such as "can I go with my route"? The OP offered up a contract question about building closures/relocation.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I was talking about info such as "can I go with my route"? The OP offered up a contract question about building closures/relocation.

Understandable But at least here at this point, we don’t even know which routes are going where. we only know there’s a building closing close by within 50 miles and it could be split between three different buildings and two different locals. Contractually they are allowed to follow their work.

 

[oldngray]

Understandable But at least here at this point, we don’t even know which routes are going where. we only know there’s a building closing close by within 50 miles and it could be split between three different buildings and two different locals. Contractually they are allowed to follow their work.

The issue is probably what will happen to the low seniority people. They may get forced to go to a building they don't want to work from. But it may be their only option if they want to keep working.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

They don’t have to follow their work, but they would become an unassigned cover driver in the building. They chose to go to here. I believe most will follow their work. Unless of course they’re close to retirement, which might push them over the edge.

That might be part of the plan to push people do retirement