Then there is no validity to this post on the "63 Hour" thread?...
"Here we go again.
Yes, you cannot drive more than 11 hours, but you can work more than 14 hours. You just cannot drive after working 14 hours including meals and breaks.
So you can return to UPS property right at 14 hours and still fuel, unload airs, park package car, do your check-in, etc. and end up working more than 14 hours.
You then need 10 hours off before you can drive again.
Read more:
http://www.browncafe.com/community/...p-to-63hrs-a-week.367505/page-2#ixzz3tbct9m8O"
My problem is not with the hard and fast 14 hour rule but the 11 hours driving rule, I have never seen that one in package before.
The 11 hour rule applies to package car drivers also. But this 11 hours is actual driving time. No package car driver is actually driving near 11 hours per day, so they don't even keep track of it.
This is wrong, as a matter of fact you're technically supposed to be off property all together at 14 hours. This is to protect the employee from abuse.
No you are not, at least referring to Hours of Service. This may be your local policy, but does not apply elsewhere.
You can work longer than 14, just cannot drive after working 14.
the 11 hour rule isn't for package car. it's straight 11 hours driving which is meant for feeder guys
It is for package car drivers also and it is not
straight 11 hours. It is the total number of hours driven. You can only drive 11 total hours without taking 10 hours off.
Package drivers do not worry about it because there are no package drivers that come close to driving a total of 11 hours.
I think The 11 hour rule is meant for feeders. It means being behind the wheel 11 hours straight without ever stopping. For instance if you are delivering packages you are typically not behind the wheel for a extended period of time. You are getting in and out of the truck. Each stop would essentially reset the 11 hours. So if you are a package car driver I would think you do not have to worry about the 11 hour rule though with ORION I guess you never know for sure.
It is not 11 straight hours of driving, it is the total hours of driving throughout the day.
If you are a package driver, each stop does not reset the 11 hours.
Package drivers do not worry about it because there are no package drivers that come close to
driving a total of 11 hours. Like you said, drive, get out and deliver, drive, get out and pickup. I would guess that the average package car driver drives less that 5 hours per day even if he worked 14.
It's 14 hours punch in to punch out. If you start at 8am you must be punched out by 10 pm!! All the break crap in the middle really doesnt matter. I mean it may matter to your boss but just make sure you are punched out 14 hours after tou punch in.
All the crap in the middle counts, but it is not punch in to punch out.
You cannot
drive after working 14 hours. You can return to the building and do will calls for 2 more hours and work 16 hours. Just make sure you have 10 hours off before you punch back in.
