CEO Experience and Politics
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Catatonic
Nine Lives
Hell NO!
I despised Bush almost as much as Obama ... okay, not close but I did despise him.
He ran up as much debt as Obama ... he just did it in 8 years as opposed to 2 1/2 years.
Got us involved in Iraq even though Iraq never attacked us. That was the first time in the history of our country that we attacked another country when they had not attacked us.
I called him a Socialist leaning politician and I thought he was the worst fiscally responsible president since LB Johnson. He pales in comparison to Obama though.
However, the past cannot be changed ... the question is, who is the best person to get us moving in the right direction and champion changes to the tax code, regulations and Socialist programs we have in place that hamper us from achieving the American Dream and being that Shining City on the Hill again.
So, Hoaxster, Island's theory falls apart. But really (and Europe's troubles are a good barometer of this) the deficit is a long term concern and not the immediate problem. That would be unemployment and stagnant pay causing low demand.fedx,
Lets keep it simple.
Governor's have to balance budgets.
CEO'S have to balance budgets.
Community Organizers do not.
Governors that fail get voted out -experience or not.
CEO'S that fail get replaced--experienced or not.
Presidents that fail get voted out -experienced or not--Carter and Bush senior come to mind. See I was very fair and balanced.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Essentially, it comes down to one thing - increasing the number of private sector jobs and reducing the unemployment numbers.
Government spending is not going to do this.
Government incentive to businesses (hopefully small and medium businesses) to put people on the payroll and to provide the business sector some clear, positive indication that the government understands that the private sector drives the economy and that the government is on their side (albeit with regulations).
That is the biggest failing of the Obama administration. They "appear" to hate business and do nothing but idiotic demands that business must hire people and if they don't they are unpatriotic. That may be the stupidest thing ever spoken by an American president.
I still don't think Obama does not understand that he can't just order business around and make them do what he thinks they should do.
Of course, Obama is no dummy and is very smart and he may be producing the exact results he wants. At this point, I don't know what his real game plan is but I do understand that I disagree with his vision of America in my grand-childrens' time.
moreluck
golden ticket member
Just remember, Europe's troubles are just that....their problem. It's not our place to rescue or bail them out. We have our own trouble to worry about.
island1fox
Well-Known Member
bbsam, Theory ????
I believe I stated a few very simple facts..
av8torntn
Well-Known Member
His last budget had a projected surplus(from the CBO).
av8torntn
Well-Known Member
AKA the worlds best retirement home.
Wrong. European and American interests are intertwined and a collapse of European economies will absolutley devestate the American economy.
I don't think his budgets ever included war spending. What good is a budget that ignores such a huge expense?
trplnkl
555
Oh yes, everyone that is thinking of fleeing wherever they are now to come to Texas, please listen to Fedex's words, if you come to Texas you will starve to death. LMAO
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
This is simplistic thinking---ours is a global economy and we most certainly need to be concerned about Europe.
moreluck
golden ticket member
Well, all the candidates in the debate last night agreed with what I just said (or vice versa). Good enough for me.
Here's part of it....
CNBC Republican Presidential Debate: Let Europe Solve Its Own Problems (11-9-11) - YouTube
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
It's not simplistic if you live under a rock and think that the US is the same country it was in 1945. The world has changed, and thought processes need to change to reflect new realities....for some of us. We will never go back in time, and to think that the rest of the world is going to accomodate us is unrealistic. Europe is crucial. So is China.
moreluck
golden ticket member
Oh, my thought processes have changed. America is in financial trouble ourselves. We can't afford to take care of other countries when our own is in trouble or we will end up just like them.
That should scare the hell out of every indpendent voter out there.
If you have no trading partners...if China calls in the debt or stops investing...simply put, we are all dependent on each others economies.
moreluck
golden ticket member
Charity begins at home.
So explain to me what happens when we walk away and don't pay the landlord(china)? Do you think they'll quit sending us their cheap crap? That would be a good thing.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
Our economies are interdependent. Perry showed his complete ignorance of international reality last night. In fact, he's ignorant in general. When you shop at WalMart, you are buying subsidized goods. Your cheap price reflects low-cost child and peasant labor in China, but ignores the fact that those products used to be produced by US workers.
The GOP almost always overstates the amount of US debt owned by the Chinese so they can hype the "Chicom" (Limbaugh's term) threat. In fact, the Chinese are buying land and buildings here because it's a bargain and good business.
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