Colin Kaepernick refusal to stand during national anthem

[Operational needs]

the true patriots are the ones who criticize their country of which america has no shortage of problems. patriotism is quite often about nationalist racism.

Nationalists do not venerate veterans. They venerate veterans who read from the approved patriotic script. America is the greatest and most powerful country on earth. Those we fight are depraved barbarians. Our enemies deserve death. God is on our side. Victory is assured. Our soldiers and Marines are heroes. Deviate from this cant, no matter how many military tours you may have served, and you become despicable. The vaunted patriotism of the right wing is about self-worship. It is a raw lust for violence. It is blind subservience to the state. And it works to censor the reality of war.

my country has failed me. north american culture is a failure and really we have collectively failed ourselves.

the player who didn't sing the anthem obviously has a conscience and some balls to say "this far and no further".

wheres your breaking point?

No one has an idea where the breaking point is, but I guarantee it won't originate from a Socialist in a basement in Canada.

 

[rickyb]

No one has an idea where the breaking point is, but I guarantee it won't originate from a Socialist in a basement in Canada.

you probably never thought about disobeying and not singing the national anthem. thats what happens when you do what your told all the time; you stop thinking.

 

[oldngray]

the true patriots are the ones who criticize their country of which america has no shortage of problems. patriotism is quite often about nationalist racism.

Nationalists do not venerate veterans. They venerate veterans who read from the approved patriotic script. America is the greatest and most powerful country on earth. Those we fight are depraved barbarians. Our enemies deserve death. God is on our side. Victory is assured. Our soldiers and Marines are heroes. Deviate from this cant, no matter how many military tours you may have served, and you become despicable. The vaunted patriotism of the right wing is about self-worship. It is a raw lust for violence. It is blind subservience to the state. And it works to censor the reality of war.

my country has failed me. north american culture is a failure and really we have collectively failed ourselves.

the player who didn't sing the anthem obviously has a conscience and some balls to say "this far and no further".

wheres your breaking point?

Be patriotic and criticize Canada then.

 

[rickyb]

Be patriotic and criticize Canada then.

i just did in that post

 

[Operational needs]

you probably never thought about disobeying and not singing the national anthem. thats what happens when you do what your told all the time; you stop thinking.

Lol. I obeyed my parents and I obey the laws of my country (well, most of them). I sing the National Anthem and stand because of pride. Has nothing to do with obeying. There are times the lazy side of me has a split second thought not to stand, and yet I still do....pride. You should try it sometime.

 

[oldngray]

i just did in that post

odd how I fail to see the word "Canada" mentioned even once in that post.

 

[rickyb]

odd how I fail to see the word "Canada" mentioned even once in that post.

thats what happens when you have problems reading left to right.

"
Read between the lines
Of what's ed up and everything's alright"

 

[rickyb]

Lol. I obeyed my parents and I obey the laws of my country (well, most of them). I sing the National Anthem and stand because of pride. Has nothing to do with obeying. There are times the lazy side of me has a split second thought not to stand, and yet I still do....pride. You should try it sometime.

more americans especially shouldnt be singing the national anthem, but ditto for other countries as well

what are you "proud" of? all the people your government slaughters around the world. thats a real achievement

"land of the free? whoever told you that is your enemy!"

 

[rickyb]

Lol. I obeyed my parents and I obey the laws of my country (well, most of them). I sing the National Anthem and stand because of pride. Has nothing to do with obeying. There are times the lazy side of me has a split second thought not to stand, and yet I still do....pride. You should try it sometime.

Howard Zinn: The Problem is Civil Obedience

 

[tourists24]

Chet Lemon, Lou Whittaker and Jackie Robinson did not stand for the anthem, either.

Back then, the First Amendment was still in effect.

it still is.... but dont get angry when the people who disagree with you get angry....

 

[tourists24]

Howard Zinn: The Problem is Civil Obedience

kinda funny.... sounds very much like you can still have a love of your country..... just a hatred of the over burdensome government....Yet Kaepernick shows up at a press conference with a Castro shirt on.... hmmm.... see how far civil disobedience gets you in Cuba

 

[trickpony1]

Maybe Colin should go to one of the middle eastern muslim countries and start the Muslim Football League (MFL)?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Maybe Colin should go to one of the middle eastern muslim countries and start the Muslim Football League (MFL)?

Or do stand up for something real . Like Kent state. Never m , I signed an online petition. GTFO

 

[Brownslave688]

it still is.... but dont get angry when the people who disagree with you get angry....

Or you suffer the consequences.

 

[tourists24]

Or do stand up for something real . Like Kent state. Never m , I signed an online petition. GTFO

He could start a hashtag campaign

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

He could start a hashtag campaign

Or he could really do something about it

Seriously I pay no attention to any pro players, except on game day. In real life most of them are big nobody's

 

[rickyb]

kinda funny.... sounds very much like you can still have a love of your country..... just a hatred of the over burdensome government....Yet Kaepernick shows up at a press conference with a Castro shirt on.... hmmm.... see how far civil disobedience gets you in Cuba

sure you can love the people, but hate the government empire and the corporations that control it. i dont really love americans because they dont know anything about other countries, or their own, and i dont like the culture. they let a bunch of corporations rob the wealth and their government and they did nothing.

how far does civil disobedience get you in america? you get beat on by police, maced, sent to jail for bogus charges. and if your black, you dont even have to do anything and all those things will happen to you.

 

[tourists24]

sure you can love the people, but hate the government empire and the corporations that control it. i dont really love americans because they dont know anything about other countries, or their own, and i dont like the culture. they let a bunch of corporations rob the wealth and their government and they did nothing.

Yeah.... you and Mr Kaepernick should get along well.... just who is your model country Mr. Lovebucket?

 

[rickyb]

Yeah.... you and Mr Kaepernick should get along well.... just who is your model country Mr. Lovebucket?

your george washington quote is garbage

 

[tourists24]

your george washington quote is garbage

Coming from you.... I'll take that as a compliment