rod
Retired 23 years
In my State, a locked glove box needs a warrant to be opened.
Not too many locking glove boxes out there now days. Anybody have one?
In my State, a locked glove box needs a warrant to be opened.
Good luck in your job hunt.
That may not be good enough if it is UPS property and subject to search.
Probable cause?
Do they need it on their property?
This is the biggest lie you've told yet. There is no way you carried a gun on a ups feeder and still had a job.
Not sure if they need law enforcement if it is their own property. If the suspect an employee has stolen property from them, so you think law enforcement is called before or after they search said vehicle?
Some parking properties are leased.
Texas state law says you can have one in your car. Regardless of if it is on UPS property or not. You don't even need a permit. You can lawfully carry a gun on your property, this being on your homesite, to your car, in your car, and back to your home.Bad advice. It's not allowed on ups property. This means the parking my lot. If you don't believe me tell your manager you keep one in your car and you will be terminated.
I don't know why we aren't robbed daily. I would be more than happy to give someone the keys to my car and just walk away. You don't even need to point a gun. Just tell me you have one and I'll give up the car.I know we are not allowed to have concealed weapons on company property, but a coworker from a different terminal had brought up a good point. At the gates before you enter most terminals it reads "no illegal firearms beyond this point". And at most terminals before you enter the building it reads " no firearms beyond this point". Well, we haul firearms and ammo so I think that's why it says "no illegal firearms". Well, my firearm is not illegal. It is registered and i possess a license to carry it. I know we aren't allowed to carry in federal buildings and that also includes federal vehicle.I just don't think it's fair to not be able to protect ourselves, especially when we haul firearms and raw drugs for hospitals. We are a target, like many of us, are on the road 6 days a week in multiple states. We should be able to protect ourselves, not just on our day off. People say it's not worth getting fired for, but are they saying that if they had to pull out a weapon in self defense, that they would rather have there job and not there life? Although I follow the rules, I still know that I would rather be alive and defending myself in court, rather than keeping my job and being dead.
In my experience, UPS will absolutely declare the parking lot is their property when it involves theft/drug possession/etc by an employee or professional conduct issues. Then they'll run the other direction when someone's car gets vandalized or something is stolen by a non-employee wherein they might be considered liable.
Depends on your state's gun laws.
There are laws some places that specifically allow guns in your vehicle whether the property owner/employer prohibits them or not.
One DM told me that we are a "nonviolent" company so no guns were allowed on their property. "You can always file a grievance if you get accosted in a bad part of town" was his suggested recourse.
I don't know why we aren't robbed daily. I would be more than happy to give someone the keys to my car and just walk away. You don't even need to point a gun. Just tell me you have one and I'll give up the car.
We have to empty our pockets and be waned each time we come to work and when we leave work. You don't have to work here is their answer.Yes and they still need a warrant. That is like saying they can search your butt just because you are on their property.
Yes and they still need a warrant. That is like saying they can search your butt just because you are on their property.
I love when people tell me exactly what I just said, but try to sound superior to me. *rolls eyes*Defending packages, is not worth your life.
No need to be a "Hero".
The issue is addressed in the National language.
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Most cell phones cost more than that.Isn't that "irony 101" ??
Just like when all the people driving Pickup Trucks....
Have their spare tire stolen, in the company parking lot.
Not just one.... but all of them. (including management)
Yep.
Had that happen with a female driver.
She is now an OMS.
Defending packages, is not worth your life.
No need to be a "Hero".
The issue is addressed in the National language.
ARTICLE 10
Section 3.
"The Employer shall reimburse employees for loss of personal money or personal property in a holdup or vehicular accident while on duty, up to a maximum of two hundred dollars ($200.00) per employee, provided the employee promptly reports such holdup or vehicular accident to the Employer and the police, and cooperates in the investigation of such holdup or vehicular accident. Employees shall be paid for all time involved. However, reimbursement for cash loss shall be limited to one hundred dollars ($100.00)."
https://teamster.org/sites/teamster.org/files/6161478090_master_final.pdf
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If a person does not have a CHL in Tx, a gun can be in the vehicle, but it cannot be ready to fire?Texas state law says you can have one in your car. Regardless of if it is on UPS property or not. You don't even need a permit. You can lawfully carry a gun on your property, this being on your homesite, to your car, in your car, and back to your home.
If u keep a gun under ur seat the only way the company would know is if u used it or pulled it on someone and a termination would immediately follow.
That's where the locking "Glock....I mean glove" box is.Not too many locking glove boxes out there now days. Anybody have one?