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vantexan

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do you think we should start crucifying criminals again also?
Why do you protect murderers? Why do you turn a blind eye to the rapes and murders committed by unvetted illegals? At the State of the Union your party refused to stand and acknowledge the mother and sister of Laken Riley. Absolutely pathetic.
 

Doublestandards

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Why do you protect murderers? Why do you turn a blind eye to the rapes and murders committed by unvetted illegals? At the State of the Union your party refused to stand and acknowledge the mother and sister of Laken Riley. Absolutely pathetic.
I loathe and despise rapists. I think they should be murdered on the streets before they ever enter a courtroom and save our tax dollars

But we have a justice system for a reason. And we have the 4th amendment for a reason

And our country’s leaders specifically included “no cruel and unusual punishment” for all prisoners for a reason. And that was in the 1700s

Your flip flopping your logic. You’re saying on one hand our prisons are dangerous and unsafe and they’d be better off in a 3rd world prison, then you say they’ve got it too easy here and it’s like living in a spa

And one thing I’ve brought up multiple times that you still don’t have a good answer for, is what about the idea of an American citizen being wrongly accused of a crime and being sent to a 3rd world prison
 

Doublestandards

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Why do you protect murderers? Why do you turn a blind eye to the rapes and murders committed by unvetted illegals? At the State of the Union your party refused to stand and acknowledge the mother and sister of Laken Riley. Absolutely pathetic.
It’s also incredibly ironic how “your side” has been ragging on about weaponized judicial system and corrupt judges, but now you want to give them even more power in sending American citizens to a foreign prison?

If a Democrat wins next election and Trump, or any of his crew, is convicted of crimes worthy of prison, I would still be adamantly against the idea of sending him to a foreign prison, but man would it be funny to watch you and the others cry about how it’s unfair and they shouldnt be there
 

vantexan

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I loathe and despise rapists. I think they should be murdered on the streets before they ever enter a courtroom and save our tax dollars

But we have a justice system for a reason. And we have the 4th amendment for a reason

And our country’s leaders specifically included “no cruel and unusual punishment” for all prisoners for a reason. And that was in the 1700s

Your flip flopping your logic. You’re saying on one hand our prisons are dangerous and unsafe and they’d be better off in a 3rd world prison, then you say they’ve got it too easy and it’s like living in a spa

And one thing I’ve brought up multiple times that you still don’t have a good answer for, is what about the idea of an American citizen being wrongly accused of a crime and being sent to a 3rd world prison
Well let me ask you, would you be in favor of taking tv and wifi away from prisoners? And yes, American prisons are very dangerous places. Guards get hurt all the time.
 

vantexan

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It’s also incredibly ironic how “your side” has been ragging on about weaponized judicial system and corrupt judges, but now you want to give them even more power in sending American citizens to a foreign prison?

If a Democrat wins next election and Trump, or any of his crew, is convicted of crimes worthy of prison, I would still be adamantly against the idea of sending him to a foreign prison, but man would it be funny to watch you and the others cry about how it’s unfair and they shouldnt be there
Not talking about foreign prisons now. Why does your side turn a blind eye to the rapes and murders committed by people you let in unvetted?
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

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BadIdeaGuy

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Let me know what you find please, because if the story is as is that’s not right
I’m fine with revoking visas and deporting these people.

If you’re a guest in someone else’s country, you should be respectful.

If you criticized someone’s home, you wouldn’t be surprised if they made you leave, right?
 

Doublestandards

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I’m fine with revoking visas and deporting these people.

If you’re a guest in someone else’s country, you should be respectful.

If you criticized someone’s home, you wouldn’t be surprised if they made you leave, right?
It sounds like she was really criticizing Israel and her university, but I’m not really bothered by anything that would normally fall under the first ammendment


@Box Ox posted one guy who wrote about eradicating the west or something like that and I can understand deporting him

But as far as I can see for this woman that @rickyb posted, the only thing she did was coauthor a school article a year ago criticizing her universities involvement with Israel

“In March 2024, one year before her detention, Öztürk co-wrote an article in the university's newspaper The Tufts Daily, entitled Try again, President Kumar: Renewing calls for Tufts to adopt March 4 TCU Senate resolutions.[6] The article called for the university to acknowledge "Palestinian genocide" and move away from companies with ties to Israel because of the conflict in Gaza; the article was written by four students and endorsed by 32 others.[7][8][9] The article wrote: "Credible accusations against Israel include accounts of deliberate starvation and indiscriminate slaughter of Palestinian civilians and plausible genocide." After the article was published, Öztürk's name, photograph and work history were published on Canary Mission, a pro-Israeli organization that describes itself as documenting people who "promote hatred of the USA, Israel and Jews on North American college campuses."[7][10]Friends of Öztürk believe that she was targeted because of this incident.[11]

“According to a government report that was released by anonymous sources on March 2025 and written days before Öztürk's arrest, the United States Department of State (DOS) did not find evidence that Öztürk had engaged in antisemitism or supported terrorist organizations. The report also stated that a search of US government databases on Öztürk did not provide any information related to terrorism and due to the lack of evidence, the DOS and Secretary of State Marco Rubio did not have sufficient grounds for revoking her visa.[12][13]According to a copy of another report, the DHS had recommended for Öztürk's visa to be revoked under a provision of the Immigration and Nationality Act that requires the Secretary of State to have "reasonable grounds" to believe someone's presence poses an "adverse policy consequence for the United States." A separate document showed that Öztürk's visa revocation would be "silent," meaning she would not be informed about it.[14][15]
 

newfie

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People wore masks, hand sanitized, social distance. Never had flu or a cold.
i suppose thats true but absolutely no one other than medical professionals did so and they got it.

you know why? because you take your most rabid mask wearking nazi that you could find and chances are they didnt wear them 100 percent of the time especially when at home around their family. thats where they got it.

the second reason is because no one disposed of the masks properly . there is a specific process of removing and replacing the mask to ensure you don't touch the exposed areas of the mask when removing it . absolutely no one other than medical professionals were doing so. once you touch the outside with your bare hand you became exposed.

the rules being taught allowed you to be exposed . you could go to a restuarant , maks in , mask out and remove the mask while at the table. my family of 15 did that on christmas eve like the rules allowed and two days later all of us came down with it.
 

newfie

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It sounds like she was really criticizing Israel and her university, but I’m not really bothered by anything that would normally fall under the first ammendment


@Box Ox posted one guy who wrote about eradicating the west or something like that and I can understand deporting him

But as far as I can see for this woman that @rickyb posted, the only thing she did was coauthor a school article a year ago criticizing her universities involvement with Israel

“In March 2024, one year before her detention, Öztürk co-wrote an article in the university's newspaper The Tufts Daily, entitled Try again, President Kumar: Renewing calls for Tufts to adopt March 4 TCU Senate resolutions.[6] The article called for the university to acknowledge "Palestinian genocide" and move away from companies with ties to Israel because of the conflict in Gaza; the article was written by four students and endorsed by 32 others.[7][8][9] The article wrote: "Credible accusations against Israel include accounts of deliberate starvation and indiscriminate slaughter of Palestinian civilians and plausible genocide." After the article was published, Öztürk's name, photograph and work history were published on Canary Mission, a pro-Israeli organization that describes itself as documenting people who "promote hatred of the USA, Israel and Jews on North American college campuses."[7][10]Friends of Öztürk believe that she was targeted because of this incident.[11]

“According to a government report that was released by anonymous sources on March 2025 and written days before Öztürk's arrest, the United States Department of State (DOS) did not find evidence that Öztürk had engaged in antisemitism or supported terrorist organizations. The report also stated that a search of US government databases on Öztürk did not provide any information related to terrorism and due to the lack of evidence, the DOS and Secretary of State Marco Rubio did not have sufficient grounds for revoking her visa.[12][13]According to a copy of another report, the DHS had recommended for Öztürk's visa to be revoked under a provision of the Immigration and Nationality Act that requires the Secretary of State to have "reasonable grounds" to believe someone's presence poses an "adverse policy consequence for the United States." A separate document showed that Öztürk's visa revocation would be "silent," meaning she would not be informed about it.[14][15]
Protests are at a point where Israeli students can not walk to class without being barred from getting to the school. protests are at a point where "protestors" take over school buildings and completely disrupt the schools. these protests are being led by professional agitators and the schools are reluctant to adress the issue. If i was a guest of another country i would not be publishing political opinion pieces or engaging in political protests there.
 

Over70irregs

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i suppose thats true but absolutely no one other than medical professionals did so and they got it.

you know why? because you take your most rabid mask wearking nazi that you could find and chances are they didnt wear them 100 percent of the time especially when at home around their family. thats where they got it.

the second reason is because no one disposed of the masks properly . there is a specific process of removing and replacing the mask to ensure you don't touch the exposed areas of the mask when removing it . absolutely no one other than medical professionals were doing so. once you touch the outside with your bare hand you became exposed.

the rules being taught allowed you to be exposed . you could go to a restuarant , maks in , mask out and remove the mask while at the table. my family of 15 did that on christmas eve like the rules allowed and two days later all of us came down with it.
It was definitely a learning experience.
 

Doublestandards

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It's too bad that it didn't go very well. Someday there could be something much more serious spreading that some might not take seriously because of how COVID was handled by teh experts.
Agreed. It was handled poorly by both sides though. Extremes on both ends, but your point still stands and I’ve thought the same thing
 
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