Indecisi0n
Well-Known Member
Your thinking is flawed.I'm not anti union. I want my union, but I also want my union to do what's best for everyone. I just cant wrap my head around this proposal. It's almost like they didnt even try.
Your thinking is flawed.I'm not anti union. I want my union, but I also want my union to do what's best for everyone. I just cant wrap my head around this proposal. It's almost like they didnt even try.
"Getting involved" only entangles one in the violence, corruption and whatever else goes on. My hands are clean.Great another one. Listen pal, if people actually voted in the first place we more then likely wouldn't even have these issues.
So I doubt they will vote to decertify. I bet you don't even know how many people voted on the last contract. Do me a favor and get more involved before you start trying to vote out my union.
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"Getting involved" only entangles one in the violence, corruption and whatever else goes on. My hands are clean.
Major shrinkage.
The only other good thing, besides de-certification of these crooks, is national RTW. Then the Teamsters may want to considering doing what is right for it's members. Until then I'm just along for the ride; ignore the soulless union and company.
Worse than what happened to management's.And what would happen to our Health Benefits and pension?
If you know about the corruption and those issues and do nothing about your hands are dirty. Doing nothing does not exempt you from being complicit."Getting involved" only entangles one in the violence, corruption and whatever else goes on. My hands are clean.
I don't feel one way or another. It is a decisive issue. I would join a union if it were RTW.Are you saying you’re for RTW?
Even as an outsider it's plain to see what's wrong with your union. While there has been a series of court cases that works against organized labor it is still no excuse for it to have transformed itself from an advocate for it's membership to purely a mediator and go between the company and it's blue collar employees. No union can survive when it's as badly compromised as the IBT is today. An organization focused on it's own survival no matter how it's achieved.You think the company wouldn't do everything they could to see us decertify. Come on man use your head for more then a hat rack.
Even as an outsider it's plain to see what's wrong with your union. While there has been a series of court cases that works against organized labor it is still no excuse for it to have transformed itself from an advocate for it's membership to purely a mediator and go between the company and it's blue collar employees. No union can survive when it's as badly compromised as the IBT is today. An organization focused on it's own survival no matter how it's achieved.
I still say a nude strike walk would go a long way.
I don't feel one way or another. It is a decisive issue. I would join a union if it were RTW.
That is simply false, but it's easy to "judge" without any facts, as you are now doing, isn't it? The irony!If you know about the corruption and those issues and do nothing about your hands are dirty. Doing nothing does not exempt you from being complicit.
Then quit.That is simply false, but it's easy to "judge" without any facts, as you are now doing, isn't it? The irony!
I joined UPS because I made a mistake and badly needed a job at the time; I didn't have a choice about joining the Teamsters.
There's my point and it was posted by your own hand.Until then I'm just along for the ride; ignore soulless union and company.