Does anyone think it’s possible to vote our way out of this kind of tyranny?

Does anyone think it is possible to vote our way out of this kind of tyranny?


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vantexan

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You can point to some of the flaws of Russia as a country and there are many, but one thing they have not done that the USA and a lot of other western nations are doing is setting themselves up in direct opposition to God. That should be everyone’s main concern
Russians don't sin? Do you think God approves of them invading another country and slaughtering civilians? You point to our corrupt government and want to destroy it. How does it compare to Putin and his cronies hogging the wealth for themselves? In Russia if you point this out you turn up dead. You're making a classic mistake. You're so disenchanted with your government that you assume it must be better elsewhere. We've definitely got issues in this country. Taking your rage out on the system by killing and destroying isn't the answer. Did Timothy McVeigh change the system? No, he just got a lot of innocent people killed.
 
Russians don't sin? Do you think God approves of them invading another country and slaughtering civilians? You point to our corrupt government and want to destroy it. How does it compare to Putin and his cronies hogging the wealth for themselves? In Russia if you point this out you turn up dead. You're making a classic mistake. You're so disenchanted with your government that you assume it must be better elsewhere. We've definitely got issues in this country. Taking your rage out on the system by killing and destroying isn't the answer. Did Timothy McVeigh change the system? No, he just got a lot of innocent people killed.
Invade lol. it’s their land. Historically he’s fighting for land that has belonged to Russia. The media phrased it that way. Putin is fighting globalism and the new world order. There’s two sides to every story and our media ain’t telling you the truth obviously
 
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As for mcveigh If he did what he did which is a big if…then the governments actions at ruby ridge and Waco had consequences. Whether the retribution was justified isn’t for me to judge. the okc bombing reeks of a false flag to me. But I will say that no one who works for the government is “innocent”. They kill innocent people every day especially in supporting abortion on demand. Who’s more innocent than the unborn? We’ve killed 60 million of them for hire
 
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If Putin did “invade” how’s that any different than what the bush criminal regime did in Afghanistan and Iraq ? How’s it different than Clinton’s war crimes in Yugoslavia
 
Mcveigh was not only framed for the OKC bombing but he was also only executed because he was white. Proves the point this government is despicable. Two tiered justice system
 
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“How does it compare to Putin and his cronies hogging the wealth for themselves? In Russia if you point this out you turn up dead.”

Literally the exact same thing happens in Washington. Exactly. Anyone who questions the way things are is either threatened bribed or blackmailed into silence or they wind up dead. Fail to see a difference

Oh wait. The difference is our government media complex is telling us we should hate those other guys (Russia )
 

rickyb

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Nice. But I'm a little suspicious that you might not actually be interested in making things you'd consider to be "obscene" or "hate speech" legal. Don't let me down, comrade Ricky.
chomsky will guide us

pretty sure snowden said more speech is good speech
 

vantexan

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Invade lol. it’s their land. Historically he’s fighting for land that has belonged to Russia. The media phrased it that way. Putin is fighting globalism and the new world order. There’s two sides to every story and our media ain’t telling you the truth obviously
Go back and look at the history of Russia. Very different than in its present form. That's Ukrainian land now. The Ukrainians didn't push the Russians off it.
 

vantexan

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“How does it compare to Putin and his cronies hogging the wealth for themselves? In Russia if you point this out you turn up dead.”

Literally the exact same thing happens in Washington. Exactly. Anyone who questions the way things are is either threatened bribed or blackmailed into silence or they wind up dead. Fail to see a difference

Oh wait. The difference is our government media complex is telling us we should hate those other guys (Russia )
Oh really? Other than people turning up dead who were associated with the Clintons can you point to all these Americans constantly turning up dead in Washington or elsewhere? Not saying it never happens but a lot of powerful people in Russia have died under unusual circumstances in the last few years. Can you please point to all the powerful people in the U.S. who've done likewise recently?
 

vantexan

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Mcveigh was not only framed for the OKC bombing but he was also only executed because he was white. Proves the point this government is despicable. Two tiered justice system
Framed? He accepted responsibility for it. He rented the truck. And what did his race have to do with it? You're way out in left field amigo.
 

vantexan

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If Putin did “invade” how’s that any different than what the bush criminal regime did in Afghanistan and Iraq ? How’s it different than Clinton’s war crimes in Yugoslavia
War crimes in Yugoslavia? Not a Clinton fan but he stopped a genocide in Kosovo. I'll give you Iraq but Afghanistan was harboring bin Laden and other Al-Qaeda leadership at the time of the 9/11 attacks. And how does pointing fingers at the U.S. justify Putin invading Ukraine?
 
Oh really? Other than people turning up dead who were associated with the Clintons can you point to all these Americans constantly turning up dead in Washington or elsewhere? Not saying it never happens but a lot of powerful people in Russia have died under unusual circumstances in the last few years. Can you please point to all the powerful people in the U.S. who've done likewise recently?
Antonin Scalia is one. A congressman was shot at a baseball event years back. But it doesn’t need to be outright murder the blackmail and the threats and bribery plays a big role in keeping people quiet not to mention the level of censorship on google Facebook YouTube and Twitter which I call the core four of evil
 
War crimes in Yugoslavia? Not a Clinton fan but he stopped a genocide in Kosovo. I'll give you Iraq but Afghanistan was harboring bin Laden and other Al-Qaeda leadership at the time of the 9/11 attacks. And how does pointing fingers at the U.S. justify Putin invading Ukraine?
Because he’s doing what’s right for his own country not catering to the suicidal globalist west. He’s an actual leader. All of the most evil entities in the world are on the side of Ukraine starting with George Soros on down what does that tell you
 
Framed? He accepted responsibility for it. He rented the truck. And what did his race have to do with it? You're way out in left field amigo.
Of course he did but that doesn’t mean he acted alone and doesn’t mean he couldn’t be put up to something like that. After Waco and ruby ridge the militia movement was strong because people rightly saw the way this government was prepared to abuse its power and realized hey we have a second amendment for this damn reason. So they needed something to nip that in the bud and cry domestic terrorism and then play the victims. So why not murder a few hundred people means nothing to them. Never let a tragedy go to waste. Vilify and blame political enemies that’s what a false flag is. The government is perfectly fine with murders that can be politicized the end always justifies the means. The FBI in particular entrapment is their bread and butter
 
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When you’ve bought every lie the government or their media puppets ever told you hook line and sinker to justify their insane foreign policy the last 30 years or so it’s kind of pointless to tell you otherwise. But now it’s about to collapse so you’ll definitely see what I mean in the coming years
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
If everyone wants to play which moves caused the greatest crimes game, I would submit that ending the Vietnam Wars was the worst after Stalin.
The left demanded that all troops be brought home and left our allies and regular people to be killed by the millions.
 

floridays

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If everyone wants to play which moves caused the greatest crimes game, I would submit that ending the Vietnam Wars was the worst after Stalin.
The left demanded that all troops be brought home and left our allies and regular people to be killed by the millions.
This is in no way a disagreement.

That said how do you think we should have dealt with it?

I've read we dropped more tonnage in Vietnam than was dropped in WWII.
No argument, just a question.
 

vantexan

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Of course he did but that doesn’t mean he acted alone and doesn’t mean he couldn’t be put up to something like that. After Waco and ruby ridge the militia movement was strong because people rightly saw the way this government was prepared to abuse its power and realized hey we have a second amendment for this damn reason. So they needed something to nip that in the bud and cry domestic terrorism and then play the victims. So why not murder a few hundred people means nothing to them. Never let a tragedy go to waste. Vilify and blame political enemies that’s what a false flag is. The government is perfectly fine with murders that can be politicized the end always justifies the means. The FBI in particular entrapment is their bread and butter
Yah and 9/11 was an inside job. Gotcha. By the way McVeigh had accomplices, he didn't act alone.
 
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