DOGE h-1b maga controversy

Mutineer

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Do we hire the best person for the job or a lesser qualified individual just because they identify as a US citizen?

Not when 'best qualified' and 'cheapest' have become synonyms.

I have little doubt that the work visa immigration system in the tech sector is being abused.

But then as far as I'm concerned, any left leaning white collar tech weenies being unemployed due to excessive immigration is orgasm inducing poetic irony.
 

Mutineer

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In the tech sector Pajeet is mostly taking garbage programming jobs that AI is going to do soon anyways.

If that is true I have no doubt that those work visa immigrants will then be trained and used to displace native born citizens in jobs that aren't so "garbage."

I believe the long term consequence in all of this is that alot of displaced native born tech workers aren't going to fall upwards. They will fall down to my level: physical, blue-collar occupations that have already long been saturated with you guessed it:... even MORE immigrants!

I admit that I would look forward to those who have long demeaned, ridiculed, and condescended my demographic getting a heaping dose of their own crap.
 

vantexan

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So you're implying Murdoch doesn't hate Trump?

Denying reality seems pretty desperate. Anything to criticize Trump though. Typical radical leftist.
The NY Post has been pretty supportive of Trump. Their reporter Miranda Devine broke the Hunter Biden laptop story. Does seem like if anything is said that's a little critical then Trump supporters immediately pounce on as proof that they're anti Trump, gone liberal, etc. I want Trump to do a great job. I also want an honest press that holds our politicians accountable. Didn't happen with Biden with the liberal press. Don't want the conservative press to be as guilty as the liberals.
 

Mutineer

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Employment has always been conditional on who one is related to, especially when it was a government job.

Very often true. Especially true in smaller towns and cities. In my area, Town Royalty nepotism has pulled up all the ladders, and has it all sewn up tight.

Locally sourced Government contract jobs, school district, and public works workplaces are just one big family reunion. It's so laughably obvious to long term locals that it's shameful.

One of my regrets is that when I was young and dumb, I didn't think to try to put a baby in any daughters of Town Royalty.

Those who do that have mysteriously never known job or housing insecurity ever again.
 

DriveInDriveOut

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The NY Post has been pretty supportive of Trump.
Not really.
Critical of Democrats doesn't automatically make them supportive of trump. Murdoch hates Trump was my post and it's a fact.
Their reporter Miranda Devine broke the Hunter Biden laptop story.
She didn't write the article I responded to.
Does seem like if anything is said that's a little critical then Trump supporters immediately pounce on as proof that they're anti Trump, gone liberal, etc.
Not at all true.
 

DriveInDriveOut

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If that is true I have no doubt that those work visa immigrants will then be trained and used to displace native born citizens in jobs that aren't so "garbage."
I don't disagree but I'm not entirely sure they're even capable of being trained to do jobs that are actually "high skill". They should never have been allowed to enter under the h1b program because they're doing jobs an American who takes a few online classes could do.

There needs to be a moratorium on the program. At the least it needs a massive overhaul but it probably should be scrapped altogether.
 

vantexan

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Not really.
Critical of Democrats doesn't automatically make them supportive of trump. Murdoch hates Trump was my post and it's a fact.

She didn't write the article I responded to.

Not at all true.
You're in denial. Doesn't matter if it's not the same article. You're saying Murdoch hates Trump because of a NY Post article. I pointed out that the Post has been supportive of Trump. Breaking the Hunter Biden story is just one of many stories about Democratic corruption which is absolutely supportive of Trump and Republicans because you won't see those stories in the liberal press. Sounds like you're saying the Post has to publish pics of Trump and Murdoch shaking hands with nonstop praise stories of Trump in order for them to be pro Trump.
 
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Mutineer

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I don't disagree but I'm not entirely sure they're even capable of being trained to do jobs that are actually "high skill". They should never have been allowed to enter under the h1b program because they're doing jobs an American who takes a few online classes could do.
It's all about getting younger adults out of their parent's homes, and becoming functional members of society.

This is exactly why entry level jobs and affordable housing are sooo important to be made available to native born citizens.
There needs to be a moratorium on the program. At the least it needs a massive overhaul but it probably should be scrapped altogether.
This won't happen. One thing filthy rich Dems and Reps can agree on is their love of cheap, easy to abuse stooge labor.
 

DriveInDriveOut

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You're saying Murdoch hates Trump because of a NY Post article.
I'm saying Murdoch hates Trump because he does.
You're in denial if you deny that fact.
I pointed out that the Post has been supportive of Trump.
You're wrong.
Breaking the Hunter Biden story is just one of many stories about Democratic corruption which is absolutely supportive of Trump
No it isn't.
Sounds like you're saying the Post has to publish pics of Trump and Murdoch shaking hands with nonstop praise stories of Trump in order for them to be pro Trump.
Every time we talk you resort to these insanely stupid strawman arguments. Pathetic.
 

DriveInDriveOut

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It's all about getting younger adults out of their parent's homes, and becoming functional members of society.

This is exactly why entry level jobs and affordable housing are sooo important to be made available to native born citizens.
Totally agree.
This won't happen. One thing filthy rich Dems and Reps can agree on is their love of cheap, easy to abuse stooge labor.
Probably not but there is a greater chance of it happening now than there has been in recent history.
 

vantexan

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I'm saying Murdoch hates Trump because he does.
You're in denial if you deny that fact.

You're wrong.

No it isn't.

Every time we talk you resort to these insanely stupid strawman arguments. Pathetic.
What strawman? You're extremely sensitive to any criticism of Trump. Can't handle it and if we don't see it you're way we're not real conservatives like you. This kind of thinking is reflected in our House majority. We should all be pulling together to accomplish great things for the country but there's always those who want everything their way and if they don't get it they start throwing monkey wrenches.
 

DriveInDriveOut

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Every time we talk you resort to these insanely stupid strawman arguments. Pathetic.
What strawman?
This one that I quoted already:
Sounds like you're saying the Post has to publish pics of Trump and Murdoch shaking hands with nonstop praise stories of Trump in order for them to be pro Trump.
I didn't say that at all you just aren't intellectually capable of defending your denial of reality without making crap up.
 

DriveInDriveOut

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You're extremely sensitive to any criticism of Trump.
Nope.
Can't handle it and if we don't see it you're way we're not real conservatives like you.
You're not a "real conservative" because you are the worst kind of Republican that loves and depends on big government to take care of you. Literally the boomer stereotype that ran the country into the ground.
We should all be pulling together to accomplish great things for the country but there's always those who want everything their way and if they don't get it they start throwing monkey wrenches.
This is what I'm talking about. Your type has done this "pull together" crap for decades and the conservative movement constantly shifted to the left.

Your idea of compromise is getting on your knees to the left.
 

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