DriveInDriveOut
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In your opinion, why did the Obama/Biden administration allow Russia to invade Ukraine and steal Crimea?
Use your words.
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Use your words.
Why do you think Putin waited until Biden's second year? He spent the first year assessing Biden and realized there's no there there. Spin it all you like but Putin didn't invade Ukraine and the Middle East was calm and gas and grocery prices were lower under Trump.
HarryWarden
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First off it’s pretty sad you can’t answer a question yourself
What are you suggesting Biden do? Ukraine isn’t a part of NATO, should they have bombed Russia?
I think the best solution is doing what we were doing, and sending aid and military weapons
Now your turn
DriveInDriveOut
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It’s pretty sad you can’t answer a question yourself.
In your opinion, why did the Obama/Biden administration allow Russia to invade Ukraine and steal Crimea?
Next Day Err
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He took out a full page ad in the New York Times after a visit to Russia decades ago expressing his distaste for NATO and the U.S. involvement in it.
He’s hated NATO since his Russian handlers started helping him clean dirty Russian cash.
DriveInDriveOut
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I'm really not interested in these kind of baseless BlueAnon conspiracy theories.
I live in reality, not left wing LaLaLand.
HarryWarden
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I answered you. They couldn’t have stopped it, what are they supposed to do? Bomb Russia? Ukraine is not a nato country, the best thing they can do is what they’re doing, which is sending aid and weapons
You really have to work on your reading comprehension skills, man.
Now what do you think they should have done to stop it?
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
No you didn't, you responded with a question.
You don't have an answer, do you?
Your media masters didn't give you one.
HarryWarden
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I’m honestly not trying to be mean, but you need to slow down and try to do a better job at reading. Read this next part very carefully.
Your question was “why did the Obama/Biden administration allow Russia to invade Ukraine and steal Crimea?”
My answer is they couldn’t have stopped it. Ukraine is not a member of NATO, and unless they are going to bomb Russia and start a world war, their best choice is what they’re currently doing, which is sending aid and weaponry.
That is now the third time I’ve said the same exact thing.
Now, what do you think they should have done to stop the invasion?
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
So why didn't they do that?
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HarryWarden
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Why didn’t they start a world war? Wow. Well I guess it makes sense, you clearly don’t care about American soldier lives. Makes sense since you’re voting for the guy who mocked prisoners of war
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
No.
I’m honestly not trying to be mean, but you need to slow down and try to do a better job at reading.
You said their best choice was to send weapons.
My question is why didn't they do that?
HarryWarden
Well-Known Member
We are… and have been… you wanted us to send them weapons before they were invaded? Do you not understand that money comes from Congress, and not the president? And it needs to be voted on?
You’re trying to be witty but you’re just not. And your scared to even answer the question yourself. That’s what happens when you can’t think for yourself, though
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
I asked why the Obama/Biden administration didn't stop Russia from invading Crimea.
You said their best option was to send weapons.
They did not send weapons when Crimea was invaded. They didn't get weapons from us until Trump sent them some.
My question is what's your opinion on why?
What end goal should we have in mind for Ukraine as the House considers $61 billion more in aid? Maintenance of current lines of control? Russia's complete ejection from Ukraine's east? Crimea too?
I've been a strong supporter of Ukraine since the war started. But it seems like the odds that Ukraine will eventually be completely overrun by the Russians increases the longer the war continues.
DriveInDriveOut
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I'm starting to realize this kid has no idea Obama and Biden let Russia invade Ukraine a decade ago.
He's accidentally admitted he thinks their policy was bad and he thinks Trump's was right.
He's accidentally admitted he thinks their policy was bad and he thinks Trump's was right.
HarryWarden
Well-Known Member
The Obama administration didn’t give lethal weapons to Ukraine for 2 reasons, 1 is they said they thought it might provoke Putin to escalate the conflict in the separatist Donbas area of Ukraine near Russia’s border, and also because of fear that the Russians would get access to Javelin's sensitive technology.
"The Russians had deep penetrations of Ukrainian intelligence, security, and military forces in the aftermath" of that country's 2014 revolution that overthrew a pro-Russian government he said, "and it took time to rid those forces of Russian moles, agents, and spies. That was the purpose of my visit to Kiev less than eight weeks after the Revolution of Dignity." Cia chief Brennon
You’re sitting here praising the weapons trump sent, yet clearly it wasn’t enough since they still got invaded.
Trump continuously bent over for putin. There’s a reason he spoke with him and kicked out the interpreters. He said at helensky he believes putin over our intelligence agencies. There’s no doubt putin was waiting until trumps second term to invade. Or hoping trump was competent enough to pull off Jan 6, but of course he failed at that, also.
It’s obvious Trump won’t win the presidency again, so it was now or never for Putin to make his move
How is it obvious?
HarryWarden
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1. The elections are rigged according to trump and his voters
2. He’s already lost before
Not by as much as Democrats would like to believe. And it doesn’t seem like Biden is in a better position now than he was then.
Narrow Wins In These Key States Powered Biden To The Presidency
Joe Biden topped President Trump by nearly 7 million votes, and 74 votes in the Electoral College, but his victory really was stitched together with narrow margins in key states.
www.npr.org
December 2, 2020
“As NPR's Domenico Montanaro has put it, "just 44,000 votes in Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin separated Biden and Trump from a tie in the Electoral College."
