Early Use of Hydroxychloroquine Linked to Lower Hospitalization Rates

rickyb

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If I need some reviews on a new toaster, I'll read consumer reports, maybe, or just user reviews on the internet. When it comes to health and medical information, I'll go right to primary sources. Consumer reports may do some lab tests on materials, but any other health related stuff they report on is necessarily second hand.
they cover a wide variety of topics to keep u protected as a consumer. how much have you read? and what car do you drive or have u driven btw?
 

rickyb

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Outdoors social distancing is mostly unnecessary due to air currents, which can be stagnant, admittedly, and microbes not being able to survive UV very well.

Indoors, without proper ventilation, everyone is breathing the same, recycled air. It's particularly bad in highrises and airplanes. So it doesn't matter how far apart you are if the air is being recycled and not ventilated. UV filtration systems can help in indoor spaces that can't vent to the outdoors.

The main reason air in buildings doesn't get vented properly? Increased energy efficiency standards due to climate change alarmism. An example of how climate change alarmism is more harmful to people than climate change.
u have to social distance because of p2p transmission. thats regardless of in or outdoors.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
u have to social distance because of p2p transmission. thats regardless of in or outdoors.

You don't even understand the dynamics, but you talk about it like it's gospel truth. Sorry, p2p transmission via droplets is not the driver of the pandemic.

global warming is way more harmful to people than a pandemic. its up there with atomic war which is also a disaster no thanks to trump.

Wrong. Cold kills more people than warmth.
 

rickyb

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You don't even understand the dynamics, but you talk about it like it's gospel truth. Sorry, p2p transmission via droplets is not the driver of the pandemic.



Wrong. Cold kills more people than warmth.
yea i do actually. you can get it being near another person, you can get it touching contaminated surfaces, etc. all the articles ive read basically said the same thing.

cold isnt going to lead to extinction. global warming and nuclear war is.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
yea i do actually. you can get it being near another person, you can get it touching contaminated surfaces, etc. all the articles ive read basically said the same thing.

cold isnt going to lead to extinction. global warming and nuclear war is.

You can, but not as likely. Even less likely is asymptomatic transmission. And people have been predicting the end of the earth since the dawn of consciousness. The people you listen to understand the psychology behind doomsday prophesy and they use it against a trusting audience.
 

rickyb

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You can, but not as likely. Even less likely is asymptomatic transmission. And people have been predicting the end of the earth since the dawn of consciousness. The people you listen to understand the psychology behind doomsday prophesy and they use it against a trusting audience.
so were not at risk of nuclear war?
 

rickyb

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You can, but not as likely. Even less likely is asymptomatic transmission. And people have been predicting the end of the earth since the dawn of consciousness. The people you listen to understand the psychology behind doomsday prophesy and they use it against a trusting audience.

As a respiratory virus, the coronavirus spreads in droplets when someone coughs or sneezes, File says. People can also release viral particles when they talk, sing, or exhale. That means those within 5 or 6 feet of an infected person are the most likely to get sick when those viral particles land on a mucous membrane, like in an eye.


These viruses can also spread when people touch a surface contaminated with infectious droplets, then touch their nose, mouth, or eyes. But according to the CDC, while transmission via contaminated surfaces is possible, it's “not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.” At present, there’s no reason to think the pathogen could be transmitted through food or via consumer goods. (See our article about food safety and coronavirus.)


These viruses “don’t float around on the air for days on end,” says Isaac Bogoch, an epidemiologist and associate professor of infectious diseases in the department of medicine at the University of Toronto. But there is significant evidence at this point that SARS-CoV-2 can spread through the air, according to a letter to the WHO signed by 239 scientists.


While the coronavirus is nowhere near as contagious as something like measles, airborne spread greatly increases the risk that people can catch the virus indoors, especially in poorly ventilated areas, according to Jose-Luis Jimenez, a professor of chemistry at the University of Colorado Boulder who conducts research on aerosol droplets and is a signatory of the letter.



What's more, evidence has shown that people infected with SARS-CoV-2 are able to spread it to others before they seem to have symptoms or when their symptoms are very minor. Many other viruses spread most readily when people are already showing clear symptoms.


“We know there is virus spread before you develop symptoms, and then we know that there’s a large group ... that actually is asymptomatic or has such mild cases that they continue to spread the virus,” Deborah L. Birx, the coronavirus response coordinator for the White House, said at a March press briefing.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star

As a respiratory virus, the coronavirus spreads in droplets when someone coughs or sneezes, File says. People can also release viral particles when they talk, sing, or exhale. That means those within 5 or 6 feet of an infected person are the most likely to get sick when those viral particles land on a mucous membrane, like in an eye.


These viruses can also spread when people touch a surface contaminated with infectious droplets, then touch their nose, mouth, or eyes. But according to the CDC, while transmission via contaminated surfaces is possible, it's “not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.” At present, there’s no reason to think the pathogen could be transmitted through food or via consumer goods. (See our article about food safety and coronavirus.)


These viruses “don’t float around on the air for days on end,” says Isaac Bogoch, an epidemiologist and associate professor of infectious diseases in the department of medicine at the University of Toronto. But there is significant evidence at this point that SARS-CoV-2 can spread through the air, according to a letter to the WHO signed by 239 scientists.


While the coronavirus is nowhere near as contagious as something like measles, airborne spread greatly increases the risk that people can catch the virus indoors, especially in poorly ventilated areas, according to Jose-Luis Jimenez, a professor of chemistry at the University of Colorado Boulder who conducts research on aerosol droplets and is a signatory of the letter.



What's more, evidence has shown that people infected with SARS-CoV-2 are able to spread it to others before they seem to have symptoms or when their symptoms are very minor. Many other viruses spread most readily when people are already showing clear symptoms.


“We know there is virus spread before you develop symptoms, and then we know that there’s a large group ... that actually is asymptomatic or has such mild cases that they continue to spread the virus,” Deborah L. Birx, the coronavirus response coordinator for the White House, said at a March press briefing.

Right, they are confirming what I've said, but the parts that don't I have actually read the source material, and the assessments these people are making of the data are spurious, and the data they use to support their claims is of much lower quality, anectodotal at best.
 

rickyb

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Right, they are confirming what I've said, but the parts that don't I have actually read the source material, and the assessments these people are making of the data are spurious, and the data they use to support their claims is of much lower quality, anectodotal at best.
im assuming how you catch it is pretty typical stuff of the flus.

Common cold viruses are so contagious because they tend to replicate in the upper airway, causing coughing and sneezing that spread disease. The first SARS and the MERS coronaviruses were so deadly because of the damage they caused while replicating deep in the lungs, but they didn't spread as much because they didn't infect the upper airway, Menachery says. By replicating in both the upper airway and deep in the lungs, the new virus seems able to spread easily and cause severe disease.

 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
the fact that the americans and russians have almost wiped each other out on several occassions speaks to this.
So the goat wins?

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