FedEx contractor revolt?

[59 Dano]

It will fail… this company doesn’t know what to do. Couriers consistently learning & running the same route, in an order that makes sense to THEM, has never been broken. Yet they’re trying to fix it. It’s okay for this corporation to not put up UPS numbers. They’re a tighter, cleaner company. Doesn’t mean FedEx needs to go overhaul their entire network with dumb programs trying to combine the branches without really combining them. I wonder if UPS is always scheming up dumb like response & E-star. As an investor, these never ending bandaid trial period experiments are a horrible sign.

I used to say this board was like bad sports talk radio, but I was wrong. It was worse.

You don't host a show in Nashville by chance, do you?

 

[Gone fishin]

They need fewer people with one network. I find it amusing you express guys still believe you’re superior in any way. The dude that drives around my neighborhood in a rental van staring at his scanner for Express is nothing to write home about.

Yesterday a ground guy left 12,000 dollars worth of computers on a dock. They were 7 miles from where they were supposed to go , clearly wrong address. The company came and got them.
IT IS NOT CLOSE

 

[59 Dano]

They need fewer people with one network. I find it amusing you express guys still believe you’re superior in any way. The dude that drives around my neighborhood in a rental van staring at his scanner for Express is nothing to write home about.

How about the Ground guy in dirty jeans and a truck that looks like it's about to fall apart because his contractor doesn't know how to run his business, can't make any money, and blames it all on FedEx?

Express has its faults but that army of chintzy money-losing Ground failures doesn't really need to be casting stones.

 

[It will be fine]

Yesterday a ground guy left 12,000 dollars worth of computers on a dock. They were 7 miles from where they were supposed to go , clearly wrong address. The company came and got them.
IT IS NOT CLOSE

How about the Ground guy in dirty jeans and a truck that looks like it's about to fall apart because his contractor doesn't know how to run his business, can't make any money, and blames it all on FedEx?

Express has its faults but that army of chintzy money-losing Ground failures doesn't really need to be casting stones.

Lol. And yet the corporation is moving all their freight into the Ground network. Keep hanging your hat on your imaginary superiority. It’ll help at the unemployment office.

 

[59 Dano]

Lol. And yet the corporation is moving all their freight into the Ground network. Keep hanging your hat on your imaginary superiority. It’ll help at the unemployment office.

Oh, absolutely they are moving some freight. Like I said before on several occasions, customers don't care how lousy Ground is.

My job is fine. How much money are you going to lose this year?

 

[MAKAVELI]

Lol. And yet the corporation is moving all their freight into the Ground network. Keep hanging your hat on your imaginary superiority. It’ll help at the unemployment office.

Why did FedEx move 4Z back to Express before 2.0? Lol

 

[MAKAVELI]

1. In some areas yes and in others Ground is more dense. FedEx is also building new Ground facilities - not so much for FXE. Nationally there are and will be more Ground buildings AND they deliver more packages.

As long as packages are delivered no one cares about retention or hiring of drivers for contractors. In test markets they have data to show how much is saved and the service levels. They've decided it is acceptable and in fact continue to add zip codes going to FXG in those locations.

IMO this kinda sucks. But I believe it's a partial solution on the way to as many consolidated buildings as possible. This will follow the FXG service areas due to having much more volume. I also believe consolidated operations will make FedEx more profitable. That won't help employees much because execs couldn't care less about paying people as long as there are enough people to pup and deliver at acceptable service levels.

You're in management, open your eyes. The bean counters, executive management, and engineers have their heads up their ass. Instead of streamlining the network making it more efficient, they are making it more complicated and bloated than ever. This isn't going to save anything in the long term and will finally prove to investors FedEx doesn't have a clue on how to run its business.

 

[floridays]

Certain markets , we were told not ours

Larger point.

 

[It will be fine]

Why did FedEx move 4Z back to Express before 2.0? Lol

Backend tech issues, same reason they are slow moving the freight from express to Ground. Their tech is garbage, but service levels have nothing to do with what freight is moved. The uniforms or lack of for Ground drivers has nothing to do with the freight they move. Express guys believing they are super special has nothing to do with the freight they move. Express as a stand-alone service in the states is on borrowed time.

 

[Fred's Myth]

Backend tech issues, same reason they are slow moving the freight from express to Ground. Their tech is garbage, but service levels have nothing to do with what freight is moved. The uniforms or lack of for Ground drivers has nothing to do with the freight they move. Express guys believing they are super special has nothing to do with the freight they move. Express as a stand-alone service in the states is on borrowed time.

FedEx itself is on borrowed time. Research what China plans to take on FedEx and UPS. FedEx will look like Lone Star Overnight, delivering from personal vehicles.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Backend tech issues, same reason they are slow moving the freight from express to Ground. Their tech is garbage, but service levels have nothing to do with what freight is moved. The uniforms or lack of for Ground drivers has nothing to do with the freight they move. Express guys believing they are super special has nothing to do with the freight they move. Express as a stand-alone service in the states is on borrowed time.

It wasn't tech issues. It was service issues. You couldn't del our freight, period. FedEx is like a crazy ex girlfriend that keeps coming back thinking things will change when in fact just gets worse. Lol

 

[Mutineer]

FedEx itself is on borrowed time.

Lotsa' people believe that. And for very many good reasons.

I believe that the entire final-mile delivery industry is very eager to explore exactly how low they can go in terms of quality of front-line employees, service, and customer satisfaction.

IOW, in the future, ALL the carriers are going to suck equally.

 

[HedleyLamarr]

Backend tech issues, same reason they are slow moving the freight from express to Ground. Their tech is garbage, but service levels have nothing to do with what freight is moved. The uniforms or lack of for Ground drivers has nothing to do with the freight they move. Express guys believing they are super special has nothing to do with the freight they move. Express as a stand-alone service in the states is on borrowed time.

This thread is titled "FedEx contractor revolt?". With Patton gone, I am under the strong impression that this "revolt" isn't happening. The only real question is how quickly will this thread descend into another "My president was better than yours" thread.

 

[It will be fine]

This thread is titled "FedEx contractor revolt?". With Patton gone, I am under the strong impression that this "revolt" isn't happening. The only real question is how quickly will this thread descend into another "My president was better than yours" thread.

It was never a revolt to begin with. Spencer was just getting attention to the fact that contractors are failing due to the combo of lowball contracts, low volume and inflationary costs. Those factors haven’t changed, contractors are failing or walking away every week. When peak is lackluster more contractors will go out of business.

 

[yadig]

It was never a revolt to begin with. Spencer was just getting attention to the fact that contractors are failing due to the combo of lowball contracts, low volume and inflationary costs. Those factors haven’t changed, contractors are failing or walking away every week. When peak is lackluster more contractors will go out of business.

I wonder if it’s gonna help or hurt contractors as FedEx begins putting p1, fo on them? If they are truly gonna combine opcos that will have to happen.

 

[It will be fine]

I wonder if it’s gonna help or hurt contractors as FedEx begins putting p1, fo on them? If they are truly gonna combine opcos that will have to happen.

Right now, any volume would help. I figure if they plan on giving us p1 it will help with dispatch time. They can’t finish the sort at 10:30 if they want us to deliver p1.

 

[yadig]

Right now, any volume would help. I figure if they plan on giving us p1 it will help with dispatch time. They can’t finish the sort at 10:30 if they want us to deliver p1.

This is going to be ugly

 

[Cactus]

It wasn't tech issues. It was service issues. You couldn't del our freight, period.

Right.

Ground only delivered what Express freight they felt like delivering. Lots of unattempted packages were either brought back to Express stations or dumped in dropboxes.

 

[yadig]

Right.

Ground only delivered what Express freight they felt like delivering. Lots of unattempted packages were either brought back to Express stations or dumped in dropboxes.

Their testing the waters and it sounds like customers are the ones suffering!

 

[MAKAVELI]

Right.

Ground only delivered what Express freight they felt like delivering. Lots of unattempted packages were either brought back to Express stations or dumped in dropboxes.

Yep, and it sounds like right now FedEx wants to give them the less profitable rural areas.