Getting rid of the competition as a contract proposal

[Johney]

Don't kid yourself people UPS does not do ANYTHING for free(maybe 30+ years ago when they would line flight a NDA that missed service. I know I've gone to the airport and picked up a letter from Delta).They are making something from Amazon I don't care what anyone has been told. There's no ing way this company does anything without making money.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Don't kid yourself people UPS does not do ANYTHING for free(maybe 30+ years ago when they would line flight a NDA that missed service. I know I've gone to the airport and picked up a letter from Delta).They are making something from Amazon I don't care what anyone has been told. There's no ing way this company does anything without making money.

Did anyone suggest we weren't making anything on Amazon?

 

[Johney]

Did anyone suggest we weren't making anything on Amazon?

I stand corrected. I believe someone mentioned razor thin margins. I'm sure it's far more than that.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

I stand corrected. I believe someone mentioned razor thin margins. I'm sure it's far more than that.

Razor thin may be a bit of an exaggeration, but it isn't exactly a precise measure. I doubt we make much off any high volume shipper, per package, and I'm sure we make more off some than others.
How much do you pay for shipping when you buy from Amazon?

 

[Returntosender]

 

[Next Day Error]

Uh huh. I don't need to know the exact amount per package to know we don't make a lot of profit per package. How could I know we aren't charging more, more than what already? I see the evidence around me, hear what other people are saying, and apply my knowledge of the business world to form an educated guess. So, are you trying to make this about me and what you think I know or don't? Or do you have something to add the conversation? Do you know how much we profit off amazon? I'd be interested to know.

You DON’T KNOW what the pricing is. Thanks for playing.

 

[I have been lurking]

I stand corrected. I believe someone mentioned razor thin margins. I'm sure it's far more than that.

I remember a dispatcher saying that

 

[zubenelgenubi]

You DON’T KNOW what the pricing is. Thanks for playing.

That's probably why I said these things:

Loading down our system with low profit packages increases pressure on the company to get more done faster with fewer people. There is an optimum level of Amazon we should take for the price we charge, and my guess is we are taking way over that optimum.

Following the law of diminishing returns, if we don't scale back their volume or increase their rates, the company won't have the workforce to deal with the volume, because everyone will be injured, quit, or massively slow down their performance, eating in to profit. We already know the company doesn't like to invest in maintaining equipment, even at current profit levels, if profits drop due to staffing issues, equipment will start failing, and there won't be much of a company left.

If we did all the surepost, we would probably lose money on it. I'm guessing we're right on the edge with Amazon.

Did I ever claim to know the pricing? I'm sorry this, like climate science, is all so over your head. Now that we agree that I never claimed to know the pricing, I hope you are caught up and can participate in the actual conversation and stop trying to make it about me and some bizarre grudge you seem to be holding.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

I remember a dispatcher saying that

That's all I've ever heard anyone say about it, but I guess because I'm saying it now,, it must be wrong.

 

[Johney]

Razor thin may be a bit of an exaggeration, but it isn't exactly a precise measure. I doubt we make much off any high volume shipper, per package, and I'm sure we make more off some than others.
How much do you pay for shipping when you buy from Amazon?

I pay no shipping but I pretty much don’t pay shipping on 95% of what I or my wife buys online. Your point?

I remember a dispatcher saying that

I heard it from old school sales rep.

 

[I have been lurking]

I pay no shipping but I pretty much don’t pay shipping on 95% of what I or my wife buys online. Your point?

I heard it from old school sales rep.

You pay the shipping in an inflated price. I noticed it on some items

 

[zubenelgenubi]

I pay no shipping but I pretty much don’t pay shipping on 95% of what I or my wife buys online. Your point?

Where does the money come from for Amazon to pay us enough so that we can make a healthy profit if you don't pay for shipping? And, yes, this applies to other online retailers, but that only emphasizes the point.

I heard it from old school sales rep.

What did you hear? That we make a healthy profit per package from amazon, or that we don't?

You pay the shipping in an inflated price. I noticed it on some items

Getting stuff cheaper due to volume, and padding the price, and then, finally, the prime membership fee, are all how Amazon can get away with "not charging" for shipping. They still have to be competitive on overall price with brick and mortar stores, which means they have to get their shipping as cheap as possible.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Where does the money come from for Amazon to pay us enough so that we can make a healthy profit if you don't pay for shipping? And, yes, this applies to other online retailers, but that only emphasizes the point.



What did you hear? That we make a healthy profit per package from amazon, or that we don't?



Getting stuff cheaper due to volume, and padding the price, and then, finally, the prime membership fee, are all how Amazon can get away with "not charging" for shipping. They still have to be competitive on overall price with brick and mortar stores, which means they have to get their shipping as cheap as possible.

Amazon prime isn't free

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Amazon prime isn't free

Yeah, I mentioned that. It's about 135 per year. How many 2 day shipments do you think that pays for?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Yeah, I mentioned that. It's about 135 per year. How many 2 day shipments do you think that pays for?

Probably 135... Lol

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Probably 135... Lol

I wouldn't doubt it.

 

[PT Car Washer]

How does that affect your job.... as a PT car washer ?

It doesn't right now but I used to sort in the primary and saw the stupidity that goes on.

 

[PT 4 Life]

It doesn't right now but I used to sort in the primary and saw the stupidity that goes on.

They messed up getting rid of the skilled positions. Should be getting a dollar more.

 

[PT Car Washer]

They messed up getting rid of the skilled positions. Should be getting a dollar more.

I know of several sorters who went back to unloading after taking away the sort pay. Company hires untrained sorters right off of the street.

 

[PTSandwichMaker]

Nope. We stood up for part timers in 97. Most of us started on pt. And respect what you are going through.

Sorry referring to previous administration and now