Here's How UPS Driver Income Stacks Up
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JL 0513
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I believe statistically, the average driver works 46 hours a week. That's the figure used in our latest union contract to cite what our raises will mean to us. Based on that, you'd pull around $80K.
On another note, I've wondered. Is top rate the same in every state? I have assumed so because different contracts/pay for each state would be messy. In one sense it's fair, but it can also be considered unfair based on the large varying degrees of economics from state to state.
For example. This pay isn't worth nearly as much if you're a driver in Beverly Hills or in Hawaii vs a driver in many of the states away from the coasts. Another example, some areas, such as parts of TX, the costs of goods are 20% lower than the national average. Other business pay based on location. By being the same rate everywhere, that actually makes it different everywhere based on value.
On another note, I've wondered. Is top rate the same in every state? I have assumed so because different contracts/pay for each state would be messy. In one sense it's fair, but it can also be considered unfair based on the large varying degrees of economics from state to state.
For example. This pay isn't worth nearly as much if you're a driver in Beverly Hills or in Hawaii vs a driver in many of the states away from the coasts. Another example, some areas, such as parts of TX, the costs of goods are 20% lower than the national average. Other business pay based on location. By being the same rate everywhere, that actually makes it different everywhere based on value.
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anonymous6
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good post. think i'll print it out and put it on the fridge as a reminder.
jaker
trolling
Top rate is different across the US
JL 0513
Well-Known Member
I don't know why all the smart remarks. We should just shut the forum down since every thread started gets tons of posts putting down the poster.
We're all adults, but it seems like most are teenagers. I've never seen a forum so immature. This isn't just at you orangputah...
Thanks, didn't realize. That's a good thing. Wonder what the range is.
Thats not cool!
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Union contracts are based on Socialistic values.
Socialism does not recognize differences in people or location, etc.
Non-Union employees of UPS are paid differently based on location and cost of living.
JL 0513
Well-Known Member
Sorry, it's true. Just read through all the threads. Half the posts are simply jabs at the OP or the thread topic.
Just figured that a forum filled with drivers would act like it. Anonymity has that effect I guess.
tourists24
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I see a college degree with those salaries on that list.... Yet none of them work as hard as we do... I'm ok with my pay
bleedinbrown58
That’s Craptacular
Sorry, it's true. Just read through all the threads. Half the posts are simply jabs at the OP or the thread topic.
Just figured that a forum filled with drivers would act like it. Anonymity has that effect I guess.
JL doesn't like the way we post or answer threads. Okay dude you shut the forum down, I'll alert the media! Oh..was that a jab?? lol
cino321
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JL 0513
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Here's another one.
I have 2 college degrees. Chose UPS as I saw it as a better future. Turned out to be true.
Dracula
Package Car is cake compared to this...
Here's 30 jobs that pay a national median of $80K/yr.
Now a few considerations:
*Yes, those at top rate only past that figure with typical overtime. Some drivers even pass $90K.
*And although we need overtime to match, we get pensions and other benefits that these other jobs don't provide.
*And for the record, these figures are a few years old but surely haven't changed much.
Consider the education required for all these jobs. We're not doing too shabby for doing a job with no advanced skills needed. In fact, we learn what we need to do the job in a matter of weeks. But we do earn every penny!
1. Administrative law judges, adjudicators and hearing officers
Do this: Conduct hearings to rule on government-related claims; determine penalties and liability; and help to craft settlements.
Get paid: $80,870
2. Biomedical engineers
Do this: Design and develop devices and procedures to help solve health-related problems. Projects might include information systems, artificial organs or artificial limbs.
Get paid: $81,120
3. Chiropractors
Do this: Diagnose and treat musculoskeletal conditions of the spinal column to prevent disease and alleviate imbalance, pain and pressure believed to be caused by interference with nervous system.
Get paid: $81,340
4. Atmospheric, earth, marine and space sciences teachers, post-secondary
Do this: Teach courses and research topics in the physical sciences, except chemistry and physics.
Get paid: $81,470
5. Agents and business managers of artists, performers and athletes
Do this: Represent and promote their client's business while handling business matters and contract negotiations.
Get paid: $81,550
6. Materials scientists
Do this: Study the chemical composition of various materials and figure out ways to develop new materials and improve existing ones; also determine ways to use materials in products.
Get paid: $81,600
7. Physician assistants
Do this: Perform health-care services and provide treatment plans under a physician's supervision.
Get paid: $81,610
8. Medical scientists, except epidemiologists
Do this: Research and investigate human diseases and how to improve human health.
Get paid: $81,870
9. Physics teachers, post-secondary
Do this: Teach courses and research topics pertaining to the laws of matter and energy.
Get paid: $81,880
10. Atmospheric and space scientists
Do this: Study the effects the atmosphere has on the environment, most commonly through weather forecasting.
Get paid: $82,080
11. Management analysts
Do this: Figure out best practices of management by conducting studies and procedures to help companies figure out how to operate more effectively.
Get paid: $82,920
12. Producers and directors
Do this: Produce or direct, and make all creative decisions for stage, television, radio, video or motion picture productions.
Get paid: $83,030
13. Biological science teachers, post-secondary
Do this: Teach courses and research topics in biological sciences.
Get paid: $83,270
14. Materials engineers
Do this: Develop new uses for recognized materials, and develop new machinery and processes to make materials for use in specialized products.
Get paid: $84,200
15. Transportation, storage and distribution managers
Do this: Oversee transportation, storage or distribution activities in accordance with governmental policies and regulations.
Get paid: $84,520
16. Financial analysts
Do this: Assess the financial situations of an individual or organization.
Get paid: $84,780
17. Electrical engineers
Do this: Design, develop and test the manufacturing and installation of electrical equipment.
Get paid: $85,350
18. Education administrators, elementary and secondary school
Do this: Oversee all activities of public or private elementary or secondary schools.
Get paid: $86,060
19. Industrial-organizational psychologists
Do this: Work with companies to solve problems within the company. You may help with policy planning; employee screening, training and development; and organizational development and analysis.
Get paid: $86,460
20. Computer software engineers, applications
Do this: Build computer applications software and code; ensure that all software projects adhere to a company's technology and business standards.
Get paid: $87,900
21. Economics teachers, post-secondary
Do this: Teach courses and research topics in economics.
Get paid: $88,330
22. Biochemists and biophysicists
Do this: Study the chemical composition and physical principles of living cells and organisms, their electrical and mechanical energy, and related phenomena.
Get paid: $88,450
23. Art directors
Do this: Create design concepts and presentation in artwork, layout design and copywriting for visual communications media.
Get paid: $88,510
24. Electronics engineers, except computer
Do this: Design, develop and test a wide range of electronic equipment, from CD players to global positioning systems.
Get paid: $88,670
25. Medical and health services managers
Do this: Supervise medical and health services in hospitals, clinics and similar organizations.
Get paid: $88,750
26. Chemical engineers
Do this: Design chemical plant equipment and create processes for manufacturing chemicals and products.
Get paid: $88,760
27. Geoscientists, except hydrologists and geographers
Do this: Study the composition, structure and other physical aspects of the Earth.
Get paid: $89,300
28. Veterinarians
Do this: Provide health care for family pets, livestock and zoo animals. Provide check-ups, treat diseases and advise caretakers on how to best raise their animals.
Get paid: $89,450
29. Construction managers
Do this:Oversee all activities concerned with the construction and maintenance of structures, facilities and systems.
Get paid: $89,770
30. Sales engineers
Do this: Sell business goods or services, the selling of which requires a technical background equivalent to a bachelor's degree in engineering.
Get paid: $89,770
Makes you feel pretty good, doesn't it?
(sorry if this has been posted in the last few years)
Let us know how many hours those people worked in a week, will you?
Did they work in the heat, in the cold? Did they drive in inclement weather? Did they have to fight every manager in the office to make a doctor's appointment? Did they have to cheat, lie and steal to get just a single day off?
Makes you feel pretty good, doesn't it?
bleedinbrown58
That’s Craptacular
excellent point, sir......
bleedinbrown58
That’s Craptacular
So, are you a better ups driver than a guy who only finished high school? I have a degree too....and went to grad school. At this point, for all the good it does me at brown (unless I went into management), it's basically just an expensive piece of toilet paper that I'm stilll paying off. Some of the smartest people I know never went to college....a few of them work for ups
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Here's 30 jobs that pay a national median of $80K/yr.
Now a few considerations:
*Yes, those at top rate only past that figure with typical overtime. Some drivers even pass $90K.
*And although we need overtime to match, we get pensions and other benefits that these other jobs don't provide.
*And for the record, these figures are a few years old but surely haven't changed much.
Consider the education required for all these jobs. We're not doing too shabby for doing a job with no advanced skills needed. In fact, we learn what we need to do the job in a matter of weeks. But we do earn every penny!
1. Administrative law judges, adjudicators and hearing officers
Do this: Conduct hearings to rule on government-related claims; determine penalties and liability; and help to craft settlements.
Get paid: $80,870
2. Biomedical engineers
Do this: Design and develop devices and procedures to help solve health-related problems. Projects might include information systems, artificial organs or artificial limbs.
Get paid: $81,120
3. Chiropractors
Do this: Diagnose and treat musculoskeletal conditions of the spinal column to prevent disease and alleviate imbalance, pain and pressure believed to be caused by interference with nervous system.
Get paid: $81,340
4. Atmospheric, earth, marine and space sciences teachers, post-secondary
Do this: Teach courses and research topics in the physical sciences, except chemistry and physics.
Get paid: $81,470
5. Agents and business managers of artists, performers and athletes
Do this: Represent and promote their client's business while handling business matters and contract negotiations.
Get paid: $81,550
6. Materials scientists
Do this: Study the chemical composition of various materials and figure out ways to develop new materials and improve existing ones; also determine ways to use materials in products.
Get paid: $81,600
7. Physician assistants
Do this: Perform health-care services and provide treatment plans under a physician's supervision.
Get paid: $81,610
8. Medical scientists, except epidemiologists
Do this: Research and investigate human diseases and how to improve human health.
Get paid: $81,870
9. Physics teachers, post-secondary
Do this: Teach courses and research topics pertaining to the laws of matter and energy.
Get paid: $81,880
10. Atmospheric and space scientists
Do this: Study the effects the atmosphere has on the environment, most commonly through weather forecasting.
Get paid: $82,080
11. Management analysts
Do this: Figure out best practices of management by conducting studies and procedures to help companies figure out how to operate more effectively.
Get paid: $82,920
12. Producers and directors
Do this: Produce or direct, and make all creative decisions for stage, television, radio, video or motion picture productions.
Get paid: $83,030
13. Biological science teachers, post-secondary
Do this: Teach courses and research topics in biological sciences.
Get paid: $83,270
14. Materials engineers
Do this: Develop new uses for recognized materials, and develop new machinery and processes to make materials for use in specialized products.
Get paid: $84,200
15. Transportation, storage and distribution managers
Do this: Oversee transportation, storage or distribution activities in accordance with governmental policies and regulations.
Get paid: $84,520
16. Financial analysts
Do this: Assess the financial situations of an individual or organization.
Get paid: $84,780
17. Electrical engineers
Do this: Design, develop and test the manufacturing and installation of electrical equipment.
Get paid: $85,350
18. Education administrators, elementary and secondary school
Do this: Oversee all activities of public or private elementary or secondary schools.
Get paid: $86,060
19. Industrial-organizational psychologists
Do this: Work with companies to solve problems within the company. You may help with policy planning; employee screening, training and development; and organizational development and analysis.
Get paid: $86,460
20. Computer software engineers, applications
Do this: Build computer applications software and code; ensure that all software projects adhere to a company's technology and business standards.
Get paid: $87,900
21. Economics teachers, post-secondary
Do this: Teach courses and research topics in economics.
Get paid: $88,330
22. Biochemists and biophysicists
Do this: Study the chemical composition and physical principles of living cells and organisms, their electrical and mechanical energy, and related phenomena.
Get paid: $88,450
23. Art directors
Do this: Create design concepts and presentation in artwork, layout design and copywriting for visual communications media.
Get paid: $88,510
24. Electronics engineers, except computer
Do this: Design, develop and test a wide range of electronic equipment, from CD players to global positioning systems.
Get paid: $88,670
25. Medical and health services managers
Do this: Supervise medical and health services in hospitals, clinics and similar organizations.
Get paid: $88,750
26. Chemical engineers
Do this: Design chemical plant equipment and create processes for manufacturing chemicals and products.
Get paid: $88,760
27. Geoscientists, except hydrologists and geographers
Do this: Study the composition, structure and other physical aspects of the Earth.
Get paid: $89,300
28. Veterinarians
Do this: Provide health care for family pets, livestock and zoo animals. Provide check-ups, treat diseases and advise caretakers on how to best raise their animals.
Get paid: $89,450
29. Construction managers
Do this:Oversee all activities concerned with the construction and maintenance of structures, facilities and systems.
Get paid: $89,770
30. Sales engineers
Do this: Sell business goods or services, the selling of which requires a technical background equivalent to a bachelor's degree in engineering.
Get paid: $89,770
Makes you feel pretty good, doesn't it?
(sorry if this has been posted in the last few years)
Most UPS drivers knees and backs DO NOT FEEL PRETTY GOOD AFTER ABOUT 15 YEARS OF SERVICE.
Would you like to put a dollar amount ON THE PHYSICAL WEAR AND TEAR THAT UPS TEAMSTERS EXPERIENCE IN A CAREER?I am shocked at how many UPS drivers walk FUNNY or with a limp. Its actually kind of sad.
Its hard to put a dollar amount on your knees and back.
Dracula
Package Car is cake compared to this...
Most UPS drivers knees and backs DO NOT FEEL PRETTY GOOD AFTER ABOUT 15 YEARS OF SERVICE.
I am shocked at how many UPS drivers walk FUNNY or with a limp. Its actually kind of sad.
Its hard to put a dollar amount on your knees and back.
I promised that slacker, Hoaxster, that I would stay out of these driver forums, so please, someone, pick up the slack, and shine the bright light on this JL o666 guy.
kingOFchester
Well-Known Member
I will bow out gracefully from comparing cars, salaries and penis length.
At one's wake, they will not be talking about those things. I want to be remembered for my parenting and what I added to help humanity.
cachsux
Wah
Those are very valid points.
But it I will admit at my funeral it would be nice to have my kids say I was a good dad, my neighbors say they were happy to have me help them in their time of need, my mechanic say he appreciated how well I took care of my cars, and my lovely wife say as she hobbles away what a good husband I was but now that I'm dead maybe she'll get a chance to sleep.
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