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moreluck

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Via Newsmax:

The Department of Homeland Security has apparently lost track of more than 1 million people who entered the United States on student, work or other visas and has no way of determining whether they are still here, according to an audit released Tuesday.

According to The Washington Times, the audit by the Government Accountability Office also found that Homeland has not yet fully developed or implemented a new entry-exit system, required by an immigration law passed in 1996. A new system was supposed to be online by 2004, the newspaper noted, adding that its continued delay could complicate efforts in Congress to pass a new comprehensive immigration measure.

The new system is supposed to include biometric measurements, such as fingerprints, and is supposed to be applicable to air, land, and sea ports of entry and exit.
 

The Other Side

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Via Newsmax:
The Department of Homeland Security has apparently lost track of more than 1 million people who entered the United States on student, work or other visas and has no way of determining whether they are still here, according to an audit released Tuesday.

According to The Washington Times, the audit by the Government Accountability Office also found that Homeland has not yet fully developed or implemented a new entry-exit system, required by an immigration law passed in 1996. A new system was supposed to be online by 2004, the newspaper noted, adding that its continued delay could complicate efforts in Congress to pass a new comprehensive immigration measure.

The new system is supposed to include biometric measurements, such as fingerprints, and is supposed to be applicable to air, land, and sea ports of entry and exit.

Why are you always behind the curve on information?

Its been made clear time and time again about immigration that 71% of illegal immigration in this country comes from expired visas.

The southern border only represents 11% of the total immigration problem in this country, yet you would spend trillions to close the southern border which would have an almost zero effect on illegal immigration.

Welcome to the debate however, now you are attempting to understand the problem beyond the "secure the border" platform.

Peace

TOS
 

afterthought

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Why are you always behind the curve on information?

Its been made clear time and time again about immigration that 71% of illegal immigration in this country comes from expired visas.

The southern border only represents 11% of the total immigration problem in this country, yet you would spend trillions to close the southern border which would have an almost zero effect on illegal immigration.

Welcome to the debate however, now you are attempting to understand the problem beyond the "secure the border" platform.

Peace

TOS
One needs to speak of things for the way they really are instead of side-stepping because it's not politically correct
or doesn't want to offend illegals and their support groups.

Illegals need to go home and protest and demand rights from their own governments, not here where they have no
rights because they illegally violated the VISA Law of this Country and do continue to break the law while they are
here.

The United States of America can not afford to support these Illegal immigrants.

We can not be giving them free education and health care.

I am an American citizen and I have to PAY some parts for my health care soon, yet these Illegals can walk in and get
it for free and not be held accountable for it.

I'm not giving up on my country and giving it away to a bunch of illegal renegades who have no respect for our laws or
the American people because they only come to take, take, take and turn a blind eye to the consequences of the law.

We just can't afford to be the welfare office to the world.

When the economy gets fragile as it is now, you need to think about the costs of bringing millions of people here or
letting them stay.

Why do our leaders of the Right and Left think we can afford it?

At some point it's going to be them starving or you.

That time may be sooner than you think at our current raise the deficit rate.

Such a path to ruin of the US caused by the Left and their blindness.
 

moreluck

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If they are here on expired visas......time to deport them !!!!! I don't care what the reason is.....there's no difference to me. If you are on expired visa or if you swam over this morning......you are not here legally !!!!!!! Legally....that's the common denominator. We want the LEGAL immigrants.
 

The Other Side

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You asked, Ill answer you,

""One needs to speak of things for the way they really are instead of side-stepping because it's not politically correct
or doesn't want to offend illegals and their support groups. ""

Ok, when did the illegal alien problem begin? Why do people who believe they are sitting on the side of the righteous, always vote for the party that continues to bring illegals into this country by the tens of thousands, then try to blame political correctness as an excuse?? Year after year, the republicans for decades have introduced bills that bring into this country GUEST WORKERS, who never leave and end up bringing their families as well.

Now, those numbers are in the millions and YOU want to have a problem with it?

TO guys like YOU, TRUMP is the answer to this problem, but what you dont understand is that TRUMP is a part of the problem, when he outsources his products to mexico and pays slave wages to have them made. TRUMP doesnt want to change the way mexico does business, and he will ALWAYS negotiate with mexican officials to keep things the way they are. Thats how he makes millions, off the backs of underpaid workers, yet YOU think he is speaking the truth to you.


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""Illegals need to go home and protest and demand rights from their own governments, not here where they have no
rights because they illegally violated the VISA Law of this Country and do continue to break the law while they are
here.""

Mexican immigrants dont have a government that will listen to its people, but not because they dont have a voice, but because the UNITED STATES and its corporations control the direction of mexico and its buiness policies. As we speak, 41% of all jobs offered in Mexico are offered by an AMERICAN CORPORATION and pay slave wages without benefits. How do you think this is possible? Why would the mexican government allow this to happen if not for the business partnership with the USA corporations and other countries who do the same in mexico, like China, Japan and Germany.

""The United States of America can not afford to support these Illegal immigrants. ""

On the contrary, republicans pay for these immigrants by raising YOUR taxes and cutting the taxes of the top 1% but guys like YOU continue to support these "TRUTH TELLERS" just because its sounds good in sound bites.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bush-signs-anti-human-trafficking-bill/

With this bill, BUSH allowed 100,000 central american immigrants into this country and gave them immunity, education, health care, housing and job placement. He re signed this law just before he left office in 2008 giving way to tens of thousands more when OBama took office, but guys like you want to believe that Obama created this mess.


""We can not be giving them free education and health care.""

Again, blame your republicans in the congress and senate who passed the bills to pay for it.

""I am an American citizen and I have to PAY some parts for my health care soon, yet these Illegals can walk in and get
it for free and not be held accountable for it.""

They dont have to, its the law, blame BUSH.

""I'm not giving up on my country and giving it away to a bunch of illegal renegades who have no respect for our laws or
the American people because they only come to take, take, take and turn a blind eye to the consequences of the law.""

What do YOU think you are going to do about it?? Dont tell me you think your republican politicians are going to reverse a party direction that created the illegal alien problem in the first place? You couldnt possibly believe that the GOP would make laws making it illegal to hire an illegal alien, do you??

Right now, as we speak, there are hundreds of staffing companies who place thousands of H1, H2 workers into our warehouses and industrial centers for less pay than it would pay for an american worker, and YOU think TRUMP is going to reverse this trend?

By not giving up, are you willing to stand in front of a warehouse and protest where they employ non american workers? If not, then you are just a bag of hot air, like TRUMP and all the other GOP candidates.


We just can't afford to be the welfare office to the world.

When the economy gets fragile as it is now, you need to think about the costs of bringing millions of people here or
letting them stay.

The economy is this fragile because since Ronald Reagan, jobs have been outsourced by republican presidents and there is literally nothing for americans to do. Only under President Obama have we had jobs growth going back to Bill Clinton.

Why do our leaders of the Right and Left think we can afford it?

At some point it's going to be them starving or you.

That time may be sooner than you think at our current raise the deficit rate.

"'Such a path to ruin of the US caused by the Left and their blindness"".

Oh really??

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The human mind is a terrible thing to waste bro. Too bad you only repeat the nonsense of the right wing, and ignore the facts of the state of the union.


TOS.
 

newfie

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Why are you always behind the curve on information?

Its been made clear time and time again about immigration that 71% of illegal immigration in this country comes from expired visas.

The southern border only represents 11% of the total immigration problem in this country, yet you would spend trillions to close the southern border which would have an almost zero effect on illegal immigration.

Welcome to the debate however, now you are attempting to understand the problem beyond the "secure the border" platform.

Peace

TOS
source?
 

newfie

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You asked, Ill answer you,



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The human mind is a terrible thing to waste bro. Too bad you only repeat the nonsense of the right wing, and ignore the facts of the state of the union.


TOS.

it appears you're chart has been doctored. If you wish to make an argument that job growth is better under democrats then republicans then you should show the chart for all presidents you mentioned rather then simply showing the mediocre job growth under Obama.
 

MAKAVELI

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it appears you're chart has been doctored. If you wish to make an argument that job growth is better under democrats then republicans then you should show the chart for all presidents you mentioned rather then simply showing the mediocre job growth under Obama.
More deflection. Why don't you provide a graph that shows your point?
 
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