I drink your milkshake! a metaphor for capitalism

[newfie]

I was like is that a child? Wtf?

Which evil capitalist regime was this kid starving under?

Probably imperialism

Ricky , when you post stuff because it fits a narrative you are pushing and don't provide the proper context you are to be blunt being dishonest. i am dissapointed in this dishonesty since you previously called Trump a liar so i would expect impecible honesty from you as an example.

The photo you're looking at is "The Vulture and the Child," captured by Kevin Carter on March 26, 1993.

Here's the background:

• The Situation: The picture was taken in Southern Sudan, during the Sudanese Civil War. The region was ravaged by famine, with food shortages and widespread disease. This was part of a larger humanitarian crisis that resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths.
  
  
• The Scene:The photo shows a young, emaciated Sudanese girl lying on the ground, crawling towards a feeding center. A vulture stands nearby, patiently waiting.
  
  
• The Impact:The photo created a global outcry and stirred public opinion about the situation in Sudan. It won the Pulitzer Prize for Feature Photography in 1994, but it also sparked intense controversy.
  
  
  
• The Controversy: Some critics argued that Carter could have intervened and scared the vulture away to save the girl. Others argued that this would have violated journalistic

 

[rickyb]

Ricky , when you post stuff because it fits a narrative you are pushing and don't provide the proper context you are to be blunt being dishonest. i am dissapointed in this dishonesty since you previously called Trump a liar so i would expect impecible honesty from you as an example.

The photo you're looking at is "The Vulture and the Child," captured by Kevin Carter on March 26, 1993.

Here's the background:

• The Situation: The picture was taken in Southern Sudan, during the Sudanese Civil War. The region was ravaged by famine, with food shortages and widespread disease. This was part of a larger humanitarian crisis that resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths.
  
  
• The Scene:The photo shows a young, emaciated Sudanese girl lying on the ground, crawling towards a feeding center. A vulture stands nearby, patiently waiting.
  
  
• The Impact:The photo created a global outcry and stirred public opinion about the situation in Sudan. It won the Pulitzer Prize for Feature Photography in 1994, but it also sparked intense controversy.
  
  
  
• The Controversy: Some critics argued that Carter could have intervened and scared the vulture away to save the girl. Others argued that this would have violated journalistic

i know but behind the famine and civil war is probably imperialism. its part of africa and that place is colonized.

 

[rickyb]

Ricky , when you post stuff because it fits a narrative you are pushing and don't provide the proper context you are to be blunt being dishonest. i am dissapointed in this dishonesty since you previously called Trump a liar so i would expect impecible honesty from you as an example.

The photo you're looking at is "The Vulture and the Child," captured by Kevin Carter on March 26, 1993.

Here's the background:

• The Situation: The picture was taken in Southern Sudan, during the Sudanese Civil War. The region was ravaged by famine, with food shortages and widespread disease. This was part of a larger humanitarian crisis that resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths.
  
  
• The Scene:The photo shows a young, emaciated Sudanese girl lying on the ground, crawling towards a feeding center. A vulture stands nearby, patiently waiting.
  
  
• The Impact:The photo created a global outcry and stirred public opinion about the situation in Sudan. It won the Pulitzer Prize for Feature Photography in 1994, but it also sparked intense controversy.
  
  
  
• The Controversy: Some critics argued that Carter could have intervened and scared the vulture away to save the girl. Others argued that this would have violated journalistic

its interesting how the guy committed suicide. reminds me of hte bible. sometimes you do wrong and you suffer.

 

[newfie]

Capitalism was not an issue and not being fought for in this civil war for southern sudan

• Who was fighting: The conflict was primarily between the Government of Sudan (led by Omar al-Bashir and the Islamist National Islamic Front) based in the North, and the Sudan People's Liberation Army (SPLA), representing various groups from the South, led by John Garang.
• What they wanted: The Government aimed to impose Islamic Sharia law and create a unified, authoritarian Islamic state. The SPLA officially promoted a "New Sudan" – a united, secular, and democratic country – although many Southerners strongly desired independence or autonomy for the South.

if you want to show how capitalism causes babies to starve and be fed to the vultures you're going to have to find a better example

 

[newfie]

i know but behind the famine and civil war is probably imperialism. its part of africa and that place is colonized.

if you knew then why didnt you clearly say so? why do you make an ambigous accusation and then dodge and deflect when asked? everyone here would be horrified by such an outcome shown in the picture regardless of your political affiliation.

 

[newfie]

i know but behind the famine and civil war is probably imperialism. its part of africa and that place is colonized.

imperialism was not an issue either . neither side had any interest other than a authoritarian or socialist solution in that country only.

 

[rickyb]

if you knew then why didnt you clearly say so? why do you make an ambigous accusation and then dodge and deflect when asked? everyone here would be horrified by such an outcome shown in the picture regardless of your political affiliation.

i said imperialism and i went on wiki and saw a famine and i also checked out the almighty noam chomsky but he didnt say anything about sudan in the articles i looked up besides america bombed it a few years later.

 

[rickyb]

imperialism was not an issue either . neither side had any interest other than a authoritarian or socialist solution in that country only.

 

[rickyb]

imperialism was not an issue either . neither side had any interest other than a authoritarian or socialist solution in that country only.

 

[newfie]

i said imperialism and i went on wiki and saw a famine and i also checked out the almighty noam chomsky but he didnt say anything about sudan in the articles i looked up besides america bombed it a few years later.

if you're going to speak out on what is basically a very complex argument then maybe try to understand the subject matter before you do so. If you just made one of your normal off the cuff anti capitalism comments i probably wouldnt look twice. but when you use that picture and the shock effect from it you probably should make sure you have your facts straight.

 

[rickyb]

if you're going to speak out on what is basically a very complex argument then maybe try to understand the subject matter before you do so. If you just made one of your normal off the cuff anti capitalism comments i probably wouldnt look twice. but when you use that picture and the shock effect from it you probably should make sure you have your facts straight.

imperialism final answer

"His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words—they are perspectives". - v for vendetta

 

[newfie]

imperialism final answer

"His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words—they are perspectives". - v for vendetta

It can not be imperialism because

it was an Internal Conflict, Not External Conquest: Imperialism typically involves one distinct state or empire extending its power over another nation or territory
No Foreign Imperial Power: There wasn't an external imperial power seeking to conquer and add Sudan or Southern Sudan to its empire during this conflict.
Issues Were Internal Divisions: The root causes were deep-seated internal divisions –

 

[rickyb]

It can not be imperialism because

it was an Internal Conflict, Not External Conquest: Imperialism typically involves one distinct state or empire extending its power over another nation or territory
No Foreign Imperial Power: There wasn't an external imperial power seeking to conquer and add Sudan or Southern Sudan to its empire during this conflict.
Issues Were Internal Divisions: The root causes were deep-seated internal divisions –

imperialism takes a long time to sort out

 

[newfie]

imperialism takes a long time to sort out

the war was between an autocratic / theocratic government and a socialist rebellion army. the brits did not participate.
your posting about long term affects of british colonalism has nothing to do with the civil war taking place . there was no imperialist involved in that civil war. If anything the power vacuum left by the imperialist leaving caused that war.

 

[rickyb]

the war was between an autocratic / theocratic government and a socialist rebellion army. the brits did not participate.

youre right the brits had nothing to do at all ever with shaping sudan

 

[vantexan]

i know but behind the famine and civil war is probably imperialism. its part of africa and that place is colonized.

Who are the colonists?

 

[newfie]

youre right the brits had nothing to do at all ever with shaping sudan

not what i said.
picture shows starving child and vulture.
your allegation was capitalism and later imperialsim was the result.
the actual result was a war between two local factions
the imperialist was not present in that local conflict.
a war with no imperialism can not be imperialistic.

 

[vantexan]

not what i said.
picture shows starving child and vulture.
your allegation was capitalism and later imperialsim was the result.
the actual result was a war between two local factions
the imperialist was not present in that local conflict.
a war with no imperialism can not be imperialistic.

There was a white man somewhere who did something so all situations must be blamed on him.

 

[rickyb]

not what i said.
picture shows starving child and vulture.
your allegation was capitalism and later imperialsim was the result.
the actual result was a war between two local factions
the imperialist was not present in that local conflict.
a war with no imperialism can not be imperialistic.

youre wrong

 

[vantexan]

youre wrong

How so?