Immigration
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It ain't Native Americans whining, it's White liberals.
newfie
Well-Known Member
well you do have to understand that liberals think native americans and blacks are too stupid to get an ID card, therefore they the libs have to step in and speak for them.
That's true, the great race defenders think they have to hold the hands of other races.
Babagounj
Strength through joy
Migrants Fleeing to Canada Learn Even a Liberal Nation Has Limits
Canada’s minister of immigration, Ahmed Hussen, himself a former refugee who moved to the country from Somalia when he was 16, said Canada was proud to be a welcoming country but could not welcome everyone. Only about 8 percent of Haitian migrants had received asylum here since the summer, he said, while there is a backlog of about 40,700 cases, according to Canada’s Immigration and Refugee Board.
“We don’t want people to illegally enter our border, and doing so is not a free ticket to Canada,” Mr. Hussen said in an interview. “We are saying, ‘You will be apprehended, screened, detained, fingerprinted, and if you can’t establish a genuine claim, you will be denied refugee protection and removed.’ ”
Canada’s minister of immigration, Ahmed Hussen, himself a former refugee who moved to the country from Somalia when he was 16, said Canada was proud to be a welcoming country but could not welcome everyone. Only about 8 percent of Haitian migrants had received asylum here since the summer, he said, while there is a backlog of about 40,700 cases, according to Canada’s Immigration and Refugee Board.
“We don’t want people to illegally enter our border, and doing so is not a free ticket to Canada,” Mr. Hussen said in an interview. “We are saying, ‘You will be apprehended, screened, detained, fingerprinted, and if you can’t establish a genuine claim, you will be denied refugee protection and removed.’ ”
What the 'Dreamer' fight is really about
Democrats are so focused on the 800,000 Dreamers — less than 10% of the undocumented population — because they’re politically photogenic and for now seen as the easiest group to exempt from efforts to control illegal immigration. In blanket fashion, the media consistently report that they are model youth, fulfilling their proverbial “dreams” of finishing college and achieving upward mobility.
That narrative lacks subtlety, if it’s not outright deceptive. The average age of DACA participants is now 24. Few after entering adulthood sought to address their known illegal status. Surveys suggest that most are not in school; fewer than 5% have graduated from college. Those employed earn a median hourly wage of $15.34, which means they are forced to compete on the lower end of the wage ladder. Only about a tenth of 1% of DACA youth serve in the U.S. military — fewer than 900 total.
Setting aside the reality of the Dreamer pool, the Democrats’ method of fighting for DACA suggests that they are broadly in favor of letting immigration dysfunction continue apace. Why else would they refuse to give President Trump any significant concessions in the DACA negotiations — no wall, no end to chain migration, no cessation of visa lotteries?
They know that if this generation of Dreamers gets a pass without broader reform, it will be followed by another and another, all expecting the same eventual exemptions.
Many pre-Trump Republicans favored illegal immigration too, although for different reasons: They worried more about obtaining workers rather than future constituents and voters. The Chamber of Commerce/Wall Street wing of the GOP thus ignored the issue for the last half-century.
Democrats are so focused on the 800,000 Dreamers — less than 10% of the undocumented population — because they’re politically photogenic and for now seen as the easiest group to exempt from efforts to control illegal immigration. In blanket fashion, the media consistently report that they are model youth, fulfilling their proverbial “dreams” of finishing college and achieving upward mobility.
That narrative lacks subtlety, if it’s not outright deceptive. The average age of DACA participants is now 24. Few after entering adulthood sought to address their known illegal status. Surveys suggest that most are not in school; fewer than 5% have graduated from college. Those employed earn a median hourly wage of $15.34, which means they are forced to compete on the lower end of the wage ladder. Only about a tenth of 1% of DACA youth serve in the U.S. military — fewer than 900 total.
Setting aside the reality of the Dreamer pool, the Democrats’ method of fighting for DACA suggests that they are broadly in favor of letting immigration dysfunction continue apace. Why else would they refuse to give President Trump any significant concessions in the DACA negotiations — no wall, no end to chain migration, no cessation of visa lotteries?
They know that if this generation of Dreamers gets a pass without broader reform, it will be followed by another and another, all expecting the same eventual exemptions.
Many pre-Trump Republicans favored illegal immigration too, although for different reasons: They worried more about obtaining workers rather than future constituents and voters. The Chamber of Commerce/Wall Street wing of the GOP thus ignored the issue for the last half-century.
moreluck
golden ticket member
The only 800,000 the Dems are worried about are the 800,000 votes they think are Democratic.
Yeah, I thought it was pretty creative for politicians in California to make us a sanctuary state...
From the same article...
Certainly, California or New Mexico would resent bitterly any other state that likewise nullified the authority of federal laws. California Gov. Jerry Brown would grow irate if Utah or Alabama followed suit in defiance of Washington, declaring elements of national environmental legislation, gun registration statutes or safety standards null and void in their local and state jurisdictions.
From the same article...
Certainly, California or New Mexico would resent bitterly any other state that likewise nullified the authority of federal laws. California Gov. Jerry Brown would grow irate if Utah or Alabama followed suit in defiance of Washington, declaring elements of national environmental legislation, gun registration statutes or safety standards null and void in their local and state jurisdictions.
oldngray
nowhere special
Yet you keep electing the Moonbeam.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
That's true.
newfie
Well-Known Member
if the dems get them legal status then this will only be the first wave.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
You think this is the first wave?
Lol.
Babagounj
Strength through joy
'Fighting for what I think I earned': Dreamers fear return to shadows
“Once you come out of the shadows, you don't want to go back there,” Sanhcez said. “I'm fighting for what I think I earned."
Left Bolivia at 14 , used fake ID to get a job , had a kid , is now 28 and trusted a democrat to solve her problems .
“Once you come out of the shadows, you don't want to go back there,” Sanhcez said. “I'm fighting for what I think I earned."
Left Bolivia at 14 , used fake ID to get a job , had a kid , is now 28 and trusted a democrat to solve her problems .
moreluck
golden ticket member
You try using a fake ID and see what happens!!!!
El Correcto
god is dead
Giving them a clean DACA bill without reforming our immigration to a merit based system is a huge mistake. Drop the wall out of immigration negotiations and get it with the infrastructure bill.
El Correcto
god is dead
Just Bill Clinton being a dispicable racist and his deplorable democrat base supporting him.
Bet Trump is behind him somewhere.
MAKAVELI
Well-Known Member
No
hole and no wall. Drumpf needs lessons on how to be presidential.
El Correcto
god is dead
Another delusional democrat allowing their party to break the law. Sad!No
