As it turns out he was a wife beating gang member involved in human trafficking. His being allowed to stay in the U.S. was because he would of been in danger from a rival gang in El Salvador. That gang has been eliminated by the El Salvador government so he's no longer in danger. You need to be aware of the details before you start declaring this or that.
Immigration
- Thread starter moreluck
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Has nothing to do with innocence or guilt. If here illegally they have to go. Here's the kicker, so many have been let in that the government is concentrating on those who've committed crimes or already.have a court issued deportation order. It's likely that millions will never be deported.
tourists24
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they're here illegally, not US immigrants. And just look at the bottom of your own search "due process matter to every American". They crossed here without going through the process and should be sent back immediately. We'll see if the SC says that every one of the millions get a hearing before being deported. Come here through the legal process, then you'll get a legal process before you're sent back.
I think if i snuck into america, they would keep me in an american jail until i had my day in court in america
I watched experts talk about it a little on democracy now
tourists24
Well-Known Member
Did you seek your day in court when you came in? And exactly which jail are we going to hold 20 million illegals in until getting a court date? You know how many years that will take you to get your court date?
I never came in
2 million in jail now, 11 million illegals.
The economy is about to go in recession, the govt could doing a hiring program to build jails for them
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
200 years
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Kill 'em all.
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Yes.
tourists24
Well-Known Member
your example said if you snuck in........ argue the numbers all you want, it's millions....... no need to build jails specifically to house millions when you can just deport them. Come in the right way and no need for either
tourists24
Well-Known Member
"Eventually, the Supreme Court extended these constitutional protections to all aliens within the United States, including those who entered unlawfully, declaring that aliens who have once passed through our gates, even illegally, may be expelled only after proceedings conforming to traditional standards of fairness encompassed in due process of law.3 The Court reasoned that aliens physically present in the United States, regardless of their legal status, are recognized as persons guaranteed due process of law by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments.4 Thus, the Court determined, [e]ven one whose presence in this country is unlawful, involuntary, or transitory is entitled to that constitutional protection.5 Accordingly, notwithstanding Congress’s indisputably broad power to regulate immigration, fundamental due process requirements notably constrained that power with respect to aliens within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.6
Yet the Supreme Court has also suggested that the extent of due process protection may vary depending upon [the alien’s] status and circumstance.7 In various opinions, the Court has suggested that at least some of the constitutional protections to which an alien is entitled may turn upon whether the alien has been admitted into the United States or developed substantial ties to this country.8 Thus, while the Court has recognized that due process considerations may constrain the Federal Government’s exercise of its immigration power, there is some uncertainty regarding the extent to which these constraints apply with regard to aliens within the United States."
tourists24
Well-Known Member
It's not automatic that every single person gets to have their hearing. Since you want to bring up the SC cases I will be ok with sending them back until the time that the Supreme Court says that they all have to have hearings in the present situations
tourists24
Well-Known Member
Article I, Section 8, Clause 18:
[The Congress shall have Power . . . ] To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
Since the latter part of the twentieth century, the Supreme Court has distinguished between aliens who have entered the United States and aliens who have gained no legal foothold into this country in shaping the scope of Congress’s immigration power.1 Generally, the Court’s jurisprudence has been based on the notion that nonresident aliens outside the United States have no constitutional or statutory rights with respect to entry and therefore no legal basis to challenge their exclusion.2
Supreme Court precedent establishes that inherent principles of sovereignty give Congress plenary power to regulate immigration. Notwithstanding the implicit nature of this authority, the Court has described the immigration power as perhaps the most complete that Congress possesses.3 The core of this power—the part that has proven most impervious to judicial review—is the authority to determine which aliens may enter the United States and under what conditions. The Court has also established that the Executive Branch, when enforcing the laws concerning alien entry, has broad authority to do so mostly free from judicial oversight. While the Court has recognized that aliens present within the United States generally have more robust constitutional protections than aliens seeking entry into the country, the Court has upheld federal statutes impacting the rights of aliens within the United States in light of Congress’s unique immigration power, though the degree to which the immigration power is constrained by these constitutional protections remains a matter of continuing uncertainty.
[The Congress shall have Power . . . ] To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
Since the latter part of the twentieth century, the Supreme Court has distinguished between aliens who have entered the United States and aliens who have gained no legal foothold into this country in shaping the scope of Congress’s immigration power.1 Generally, the Court’s jurisprudence has been based on the notion that nonresident aliens outside the United States have no constitutional or statutory rights with respect to entry and therefore no legal basis to challenge their exclusion.2
Supreme Court precedent establishes that inherent principles of sovereignty give Congress plenary power to regulate immigration. Notwithstanding the implicit nature of this authority, the Court has described the immigration power as perhaps the most complete that Congress possesses.3 The core of this power—the part that has proven most impervious to judicial review—is the authority to determine which aliens may enter the United States and under what conditions. The Court has also established that the Executive Branch, when enforcing the laws concerning alien entry, has broad authority to do so mostly free from judicial oversight. While the Court has recognized that aliens present within the United States generally have more robust constitutional protections than aliens seeking entry into the country, the Court has upheld federal statutes impacting the rights of aliens within the United States in light of Congress’s unique immigration power, though the degree to which the immigration power is constrained by these constitutional protections remains a matter of continuing uncertainty.
I will be following the topic closely
Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
I like your idea of sending them back to their country of origin to await their hearing whether or not they are entitled to stay.
I would also make it mandatory that the Supreme Court be required to hear and decide on each and every one.
You watched liberals who want only one outcome give you a narrative that's BS.
One was the legal team
Don't know about having the Supreme Court decide each one but I'd be in favor of shipping them back to their home country to wait. And pay all costs associated with sending them back and then bringing them back here for the hearing. Put it up front plus the cost of the hearing and sending them back if they don't win the hearing. That part not refundable even if they win.
